To:	mmeyer AT rts DOT dseg DOT ti DOT com (Mark Meyer)
Cc:	SOLYOM%HUBME51 AT cunyvm DOT cuny DOT edu, DJGPP AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu
Subject:	Re: LS for DOS
Date:	Sun, 23 Oct 94 10:01:51 +0200
From:	"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il>

> 	Me too!  I had the utilities from the GNUish project for a
> while, but they, like MS-DOS, have the 127-character command line
> barrier.  Sucks!  However, Ian's utilities all have the convention
> that @filename in argv denotes a file that contains additional

GNUish utilities can work around the 127-char limit by reading
arguments from the environment, and AFAIK ms_sh supports this
feature (although I never worked with ms_sh).

> Ian provides a sample extend.lst you can start with).  However, once
> the file is set up, you have yourself a nice Unixoid environment.  You

I would say that for DJGPP people (if they do development under MS-DOS),
the ultimate ``Unixoid'' test is: can this shell run complicated Unix
shell scripts, like those which come with GNU Makefiles, especially
the configure scripts?  Well, can ms_sh do this?  What is needed here
is a shell look-alike which could run scripts in non-interactive (batch)
mode; all the interactive features (history, editing etc.) aren't required.
I had to hand-craft a Makefile and config.h files so many times, I even
tried in desperation to butcher tcsh to make something like that, but
eventually gave up.  So: can ms_sh do the job?  I don't know enough
Unix to understand the implications of all the ms_sh limitations which
are described in its docs, so maybe somebody on the list knows?

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