Subject:	Re: editor wars again
To:	sincon AT minsky DOT csata DOT it (Divisione SINCON),
	djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu (DJ's GPP mailing list)
Date:	Wed, 10 Feb 93 16:10:17 EST
From:	Stephen Turnbull <turnbull AT ecolan DOT sbs DOT ohio-state DOT edu>

> I write to know if someone knows which is the latest incarnation of demacs.
> I have a quite old one, based on djgpp-1.04 and emacs-18.55, i think.
> Did anyone port emacs-18.59 to djgpp-1.09?

DEmacs 1.2.0, based on GNU Emacs 18.55 and DJGPP 1.04 (or whatever) is
the latest one.  It does make sense to update GO32 to the latest
version, which works fine.  You do not need to apply the
Higashida/Hirano patches.

DEmacs 1.2.0 is probably the last direct port of Emacs that Hirano and
Higashida will do.  They are currently (as of 9 months ago---how time
flies) working on a port of MuLE (multi-lingual Emacs).  I don't know
how useful it will be for English only users.  There are several bugs
in English text handling in the Japanese version of DEmacs (nemacs),
which have to do with differences between English and Japanese lexical
conventions (word-breaking and so on).  Whether these would still be
broken in MuLE or not I don't know.  I've never seen MuLE in any case
(has anybody?)

I am not yet a qualified hacker, and presently haven't the time.  I
would also like to see a port of Emacs 18.59, or 19 whenever it comes
out.  And a port of Epoch to DV/X.  One of these days I'll give it a
try.  I expect to take a *lot* of time at it!

> Other question, which was raised and never (or i have lost mail) answered,
> the profiling library seems to be broken in 1.09 (all times are 0), or
> did i do something wrong in installation?

Yes, it's broken.  If you want to profile, and are not using
communications in the background, you can use 1.08.  In general, if
you need to get back mail, it's available on sun.soe.clarkson.edu in
/pub/msdos/djgpp/djgpp, (if I remember correctly) and
ftp.math.niu.edu, in /pub/msdos/djgpp/<something>.

> As long as personal preferences go i still use QEdit when working in DOS.
> I think emacs suffers too much from the unix well rooted idea to have to
> deal with (dumb) terminals, but surely it has advantages, advantages that
> i, personally, don't find in other semi-clones.
> In short, if i have to put up with the deficencies of emacs, i want a full
> fledged emacs, possibly vers 19, but that is asking too much, i presume.
> 
> Have a nice day!
> 
> Mauro Condarelli
> sincon AT minsky DOT csata DOT it
> 
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