From:	Martin Str|mberg <ams AT ludd DOT luth DOT se>
Message-Id:	<199807231601.SAA17503@father.ludd.luth.se>
Subject:	Re: info core dumps
To:	eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il (Eli Zaretskii)
Date:	Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:01:02 +0200 (MET DST)
Cc:	djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com (DJGPP-WORKERS)
In-Reply-To:	<Pine.SUN.3.91.980723094821.14884F-100000@is> from Eli Zaretskii at "Jul 23, 98 09:48:35 am"
MIME-Version:	1.0

According to Eli Zaretskii:
> It seems that we are shooting in the dark here, and we need some
> reality checks.  Martin, could you please describe your system
> configuration (hardware, memory manager, CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT,
> etc.) where these crashes happen?

Two boxes, 1 and 2.

Software:
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DOS6.22 Swedish version
HIMEM and EMM386 from DOS6.22
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Hardware 1:
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QDI P5I437P4 motherboard
Pentium 133MHz
Diamond Stealth 64 Video with 2MB VRAM
Seagate 6.4GB 7200rpm
Pioneer ATAPI CDROM 4x
SoundBlaster 16
Floppy
Serial mouse (model very cheap)
(SMC EtherPower network card that isn't used in DOZE)
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CONFIG.SYS 1:
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DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=50
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=Z
FCBS=4,0
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,22272 =C:\FREEDOS\BIN\TDSK.EXE 16384 /E
SHELL = C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS /p /e:1024
switches=/f
break=on

COUNTRY=046,850,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,9056 =C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,15792 =C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
DEVICEHIGH /L:2,18000 =C:\PIONEER\ATAPI_CD.SYS /S2

DEVICEHIGH /L:2,27040 =C:\VIBRA16\DRV\VIBRA16.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1 H:5
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,10592 =C:\VIBRA16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS
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AUTOEXEC.BAT 1:
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LH /L:2,56224 c:\toolkit\guard.com

SET SOUND=C:\VIBRA16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
C:\VIBRA16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\VIBRA16\MIXERSET /P /Q
LH /L:2,27952 c:\dos\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /l:r
LH /L:0;2,45504 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /n c+ d+ e+ 8192
PROMPT $p$g
PATH d:\djgpp\bin;d:\djgpp\gnu\emacs\bin;C:\DOS;c:\perl;c:\emacs\bin;c:\compress;c:\nc;c:\vibra16
SET TEMP=C:\tmp
SET TMP=C:\tmp
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((850) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=850
LH /L:2,17296 KEYB SV,,C:\DOS\KEYBOARD.SYS
LH /L:2,16000 c:\mouse\amsmouse.com
@echo.

LH /L:2,6528 c:\dos\doskey /insert

CALL C:\GO95\DMS MONITOR

set DJGPP=d:\djgpp\djgpp.env
set TMPDIR=g:

set AR=ar
set CC=gcc
set MAKE=make
set RANLIB=ranlib
set YACC=bison -b y -y

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Hardware 2:
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QDI P5I437P4 motherboard
Pentium 75MHz
Some S3 based SVGA card with 2MB RAM
Seagate 1GB 5400rpm
Floppy
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CONFIG.SYS 2:
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DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=50
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=Z
FCBS=4,0
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,22272 =C:\FREEDOS\BIN\TDSK.EXE 8192 /E
SHELL = C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS /p /e:1024
switches=/f
break=on

COUNTRY=046,850,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,9056 =C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,15792 =C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
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AUTOEXEC.BAT 2:
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LH /L:2,56224 c:\toolkit\guard.com

LH /L:0;2,45488 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /n c+ d+ 8192
PROMPT $p$g
PATH c:\djgpp.202\bin;c:\djgpp.202\gnu\emacs\bin;C:\DOS;c:\perl;c:\emacs\bin;c:\compress;c:\nc;c:\vibra16
SET TEMP=e:\
SET TMP=e:\
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((850) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=850
LH /L:2,17296 KEYB SV,,C:\DOS\KEYBOARD.SYS
@echo.

LH /L:1,6528 c:\dos\doskey /insert

set DJGPP=c:\djgpp.202\djgpp.env
set TMPDIR=e:

set AR=ar
set CC=gcc
set MAKE=make
set RANLIB=ranlib
set YACC=bison -b y -y
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Anything else you want to know or if it seems I might have forgotten some
obvious hardware, ask!

Now some more interesting findings.

For the moment I have the opportunity to try QEMM97 on hardware 1.
The interesting part of CONFIG.SYS 1 is changed like this:
--- /DOS/c/safe/c.032   Wed Jun 24 17:31:40 1998
+++ /DOS/c/config.sys   Tue Jul 21 12:28:34 1998
-DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
-DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
+device=c:\qemm\dosdata.sys
+DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M S=FE00-FEFF R:2
+device=c:\qemm\dos-up.sys @c:\qemm\dos-up.dat
+DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 /SIZE=11520 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=1024000

In this setup it not crashing! I. e. if I run under QDPMI it _does_ _not_
crash. 

> If you could play with your system configuration and see what
> parameters have any effect on this problem, it might also help.  For
> example, if the BIOS have a setting to shadow some of the ROM, or if
> the memory manager has parameters which exclude/include certain memory
> areas, try changing them.

I'll try. But as it's working with QEMM, do you think it's relevant?

> The reason I'm asking for all this is that I think A20 and the HMA are
> enabled on every system that can remap BIOS.  So I don't see how
> enabling it again could help.  If I'm right, then we might be looking
> in the wrong place.

Yes. Any ideas on where the right place is?


Silence,

							MartinS

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