X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f
X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
         :content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=qV5WiG1++0bPsaCZWqDaInJ1l49KRngHikld7x+gdtI=;
        b=JCcouLL1/v+gv+kk80QIUPgQyUU+W557JSZzkDmGhGaDPTamXPmr/qfKroXXGWKpsk
         ZbRFei8SvXnZLlsXf1YD3iOKYaxzZF1h7RPfsPhRBJcPwRWJ1zHFxZ7KUhwAoKBlnO+f
         VxJtvBR5Ay933zhg8WqalpqB7L5KIEDm8H8uvHpStlRY0TOJjmyZnvNbID5bpUmPv6qR
         8wgDqtejEQ+V8cSdp8MVz2d4Grozt6KgBtc6IfAHBQoYYMPvbxrvRIpk81BLHSzdO1Lz
         6dEgIba7MmLzodOx9f7Rb5rWNY2fNU5LnUw52ZCSRJiu86mk98OP0H3TCJme2k4Pagb9
         QW/w==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.152.30.73 with SMTP id q9mr28503890lah.31.1440542724338;
 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <60866F2E-0014-4F02-A359-315F1A80D893@noqsi.com>
References: <CAM2RGhTJ-gywb3LrkKoNKUxkwJCTsJ7vRxiLtmrXa5Mnp0331w AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
	<DUB125-W46D6798DBF674B80F24208C6620 AT phx DOT gbl>
	<6B8DDCCF-0E84-43DC-94A3-89CE0E56F0ED AT noqsi DOT com>
	<201508242052 DOT 28189 DOT ad252 AT freeelectron DOT net>
	<alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 00 DOT 1508250534570 DOT 6924 AT igor2priv>
	<3766120C-93DD-454D-B2FA-7C79B78DC86C AT noqsi DOT com>
	<CAM2RGhTDNMBQiCkuB4kc2+0k8t9Xs+yOOCyc6Tk_CEAqKmFS+g AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
	<60866F2E-0014-4F02-A359-315F1A80D893 AT noqsi DOT com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:24 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM2RGhTX3gcpRLxNmSzd5Ru=UH1GzeOq9rZhs62mTQ1F_-zv0A@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: off-topic: daydreaming about modularization (was: Re: [geda-user]
 Buttons for automation (obligatory grab at our shared 3rd rail) Re:
 [geda-user] Antifork)
From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t7PMjS8k020843
Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com
X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com
Precedence: bulk

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:13 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:51 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:56 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>>
>>>> The drive is low too: even with the clumsy modelling John likes to keep bashing pcb for, it works surprisingly well in practice.
>>>
>>> I think part of our problem is that if pcb makes sense to you, gschem does not, and vice-versa.
>>
>> Looking at the sourcecode I agree 100%
>> Looking at the UI I disagree 100%.
>
> I wasn’t thinking UI or source code. What matters is the underlying abstractions. Gschem constructs schematics by composition of a few elementary kinds of objects with simple properties. Pcb constructs layouts by concatenation of complicated objects with odd properties that interact in complicated ways.

I am not sure about that partially because I am more interested in how
to shove something else in than rework what is there. This is probably
not the best plan but the nicer migratory strategies have been tried
and failed.

To a point I could see an argument to be made that gschem and PCB have
different goals and the more convoluted goal of PCB leads to more
convoluted objects.

I am working on my concept of what I would like it to look like in
broad form and will share with the group when I have a complete
concept.


>>
>>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Home
>> http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/
>> Work
>> http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/
>>
>
> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>
>
>



-- 
Home
http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/
Work
http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/