X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 19:41:47 -0400 Message-Id: <201508232341.t7NNfl9O012371@envy.delorie.com> From: DJ Delorie To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com In-reply-to: (message from John Doty on Sun, 23 Aug 2015 19:20:27 -0400) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Antifork References: <55D8D8B8 DOT 7050907 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20150822230549 DOT 3750 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <55D9A5AE DOT 9090604 AT jump-ing DOT de> <55D9BC06 DOT 9060106 AT iae DOT nl> <55D9C34A DOT 2090709 AT jump-ing DOT de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > In other words: gschem urgently needs a button "make a PCB from > > this" and also a "simulate this" one. > > Simulation is as simple as pushing a button? Which simulator? Where > are models? Which notion of hierarchy are you using? Which > schematics? How are your stimuli generated? How is output displayed? > So many options. Putting this into gschem is too complicated. You’d > need subsystems for script editing and something like make. Except > that excellent tools for those jobs already exist. A toolkit should > use them, not reinvent them badly. John, your failing here is that you refuse to consider the option of a toolkit that provides easy-to-use defaults. You assume a toolkit must always be used the hard way, and must not provide any convenience features. Please do not discourage others from trying to do otherwise.