X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7+dev X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox From: "karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] new schematics editor: sch-rnd In-reply-to: References: <20230510101305 DOT 795EF8615734 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20230510144307 DOT BBFFE8615738 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> Comments: In-reply-to "grnd AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" message dated "Wed, 10 May 2023 18:39:35 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20230511133114.27EC58615752@turkos.aspodata.se> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:31:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Igor2: > On Wed, 10 May 2023, karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: ... > One way is how gschem and lepton (and tinycad and some others) do it: you > store the graphics and any time you want to make conclusions on the > meaning of the graphics, you have to go and figure which line touches > which other line, where they touch pins, etc. Yes, bad choise. > The other extreme is what sch-rnd does: we store the sheet in a grouped > fashion, so storing the logics. Instead of a heap of random wire lines, we > have a wire net group for all the lines (and junction graphics) that make > up a connected "net segment" (our terminology is wirenet for this). When > you draw in the GUI, it just updates the groups. Like if you connect two > wirenet groups with a wire on the GUI, the GUI needs to merge the two > wirenet groups. We also have explicit connection objects that connect > wirenets to terminals or terminals to terminals. So you don't need to > guess connections by coords either. Much better. ... > > If you look at > > stm32f100lm.power.LQFP100.sym > > stm32f100lm.power.LQFP48.sym > > stm32f100lm.power.LQFP64.sym > > stm32f100lm.power.TFBGA64.sym > > from above link, you'll see that the symbol box is the same size, and > > that e.g. VDD_1 for all of them are at the same position. That means > > you can start with lqfp48 chip design, realize you need some more pins > > and just swap out the symbols, the present caps will connect at the > > right place and you can just add the "missing" caps. ... > Or maybe just have a single VDD and a single VSS terminal on the symbol > and let devmap bind it to multiple physical package pins. Good idea. ... > What I meant by alternate pin functionality is more like this: I look forward to see what you come up with. Regards, /Karl Hammar