X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=igor2.repo.hu; s=k1; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding :Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lGB/498hP2+1EBMmRmhZcqs9UbIxJj/K09nyQ6nc/EY=; b=XLK4M8m+wW1ApyzADXMxpjr1kz xpTmIGjGz5+TQPqgNjjdopjCSM7ONrt5jZqope2AmWzAMKJVJq5HXWcx38HPzJJsxMzomjWD9AWaG aLCvUKJt8Tl2IBX1ZhmcHi1g1x4nPXZU8pnrK9txaQ3JXu5ePRiNNfQ0ISoI1CPxYX2Q=; Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 15:46:45 +0200 (CEST) To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="grnd AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: "grnd AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Subject: Re: [geda-user] How do I get symbols into the schematic editor? In-Reply-To: <9e65c4ec-c615-fa03-c689-9a0af6e59f97@k4gvo.com> Message-ID: References: <3d78eb97-2d71-0bed-7557-8c40a1e7484e AT k4gvo DOT com> <0328ac31-67e4-3646-bebe-f292101a9142 AT k4gvo DOT com> <9e65c4ec-c615-fa03-c689-9a0af6e59f97 AT k4gvo DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="722076672-794114636-1683553605=:25839" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --722076672-794114636-1683553605=:25839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 8 May 2023, Jim Lynch (jim AT k4gvo DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Thanks, that got me there.  I am not quite a novice, but just getting back into > PC design after being away for a few years.  I kinda remember gshem and pcb, > etc.  I tried to install those but they seem to want python 2 and I figured the > tools might not be the way to go, so I went off looking for alternatives.  > That's how I got here. Welcome back! And don't worry, sch-rnd has a steep lurning curve. Just like gEDA, Ringdove is also optimized for efficient usage (once the user learned it well), which unfortunately brings in the steep learning curve. > The video talks about looking up footprints in the PCB tool's layout library.  > I looked using pcb-rnd and found the W L brings up the library and I see some > footprints and some interesting parametric footprints.  Is there another way to > find a footprint? pcb-rnd is shipped with a small footprint lib, smaller than geda/pcb and much smaller than kicad or eagle or others. It is because experience showed that pro users always build their own (local, personal, company) footprint lib, so the more we ship with the software, the more unnecessary bloat we put on disk on every installation. But there are other options available. Footprint sources: - for the few footprints we ship, the library window and its preview could be used for navigation - we have a collaborative svn+web based resource sharing system, called edakrill; it has footprints, symbols, scripts. It also includes an import from gedaymbols.org. It is searchable with parametric search. Edakrill URL: http://repo.hu/projects/edakrill/ - since Edakrill is an svn repo, you can easily check out the whole thing with a single command in a shell - you can also get adakrill directly into your library window in pcb-rnd! That means pcb-rnd just downloads (and caches locally) the footprint you want, so if you prefer to browse footprints using the library window, and you have internet access while hunting for new footprints, you can configure that easily: http://repo.hu/cgi-bin/pool.cgi?project=pcb-rnd&cmd=show&node=fp_wget - pcb-rnd can load a lot of file formats, including kicad (tested with up to version 4 or 5 boards), eagle footprints and boards(xml or binary) and BXL footprints. Vendors often distribute BXL footprints! So if you find a footprint anywhere, in any of the formats we load, you can just put it in your personal footprint lib and it will just work. There's a generic (non-pcb-rnd related) problem with such footprints, tho, so I recommend reading this too: http://repo.hu/cgi-bin/pool.cgi?project=pcb-rnd&cmd=show&node=sef HTH, Igor2 --722076672-794114636-1683553605=:25839--