X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; bh=gtCUC7iHhw7pOoS/6nfDhQCBkHA0Iw7a7g4D2MuLKko=; b=qmXu0dz7raXsJ+FW+jLAD+CPYMrf4jDfDAqd+L7L4Rwg6Wa8AhgHv12CcgMcHBlKu1 dJ2CVbCsmpPA0JAF2/YN+UNK0TnJMLzQmt1cQkKeptwbRtvYb26wkRvrEu9LOn9grBJy OJVBd5Mis3ZQlXhFCr5Pxh8ImdiyNiVA+2IbRRNZCeSss6L9eSuzwarkDRAS8AYuJeXu xV1kgLzbfp/G2kFQIEP4a6vMkNYi3Mj+kvNwTIHWoZcwVyCpuoaVMD8Jyj1RJY9bv+ho oCrTu30T/Itf4IVK5WXLHMfEuP4M0uI70IPmf7Wt/BbEnqjUxfcG0UB4lRCUfDuHI994 YUiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=gtCUC7iHhw7pOoS/6nfDhQCBkHA0Iw7a7g4D2MuLKko=; b=t8II0oBqFKXGrtTTJZAVUUQAhLT3KNm0ABpV2nO61LitorlBKRnQ29gHDY+giAsVFu fjQM1iKCOozajaIvPwyCcdSGORuujwBVEwko9DSSjM7XGiY/Czu1eI0QKwJ4Z7vvP2nc UQZjW7hL5brg/s19HIMyME+8g19XOuxPp0oIz4NmarpOs1Lf6Ow/o3X9VJFvHOrFDy8h ascZEaekzNeH2GNjFRH6Nrgv2KLgx/KCeiJC0GcP88fwwOODtMGRDnwiKl/jHVBJYMCl j8VqzIvFW7T3+Z9Laobg24ar5L5FP0rzXEyWt7IXYT3MJt4zRfDIewxEF8xHdPGdyKF0 1DpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533188Es5VVNaj6/u4BA2Eoz/sTqXGosNAOYRCIXMAESBrc3FPdK Y44tZOplNrpONvfpLY3fEfSMihMzKDc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3p45euSIjJ9tBYyLe3CVAuFMAVLfO3j+abuUASN+k+/lBW0o/2z4J6PfgUrlU0VFnLG+gNQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:c1b:: with SMTP id z27mr16747672lfu.661.1625816251376; Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Google-Original-From: Vladimir Zhbanov Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 10:37:30 +0300 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Thank you - some requests and an offer Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <20210707101437 DOT 2c7c63a6 AT queeg> <516720E8-7097-4943-89FB-EB0F53B38AD1 AT noqsi DOT com> <420493B5-5B8C-447C-9D66-5D46AFD963E1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20210708202955 DOT 21956 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 04:44:20PM -0800, Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > John Doty wrote: > > Have *you* mastered Xorn? > > > > > > Personally, I’m reasonably familiar with Python, but I found Xorn > > impenetrable. That’s why I now use Lepton. Roland is impressively > > productive with Xorn, but I can’t figure out how to do my custom stuff > > with it. > > > As someone that started from zero with no preexisting experience in > scheme, python, or xorn,  while I do not claim to have mastered xorn by > any means I have been able to figure out how to do everything I wanted > to do, including a few things Roland would prefer I didn't do. > > I have also found Roland to be quite easy to work with (even when we > don't see eye to eye), while I have found some individuals from the > lepton side to be less than interested in any ideas which did not fit > into their preexisting paradigm. There are not so many active 'lepton individuals' actively working on the project, though. Last time someone (me?) asked you about lepton you wrote something like "I chose geda-gaf because it and lepton have different code base..." We're glad to any contribution. If you want your ideas/code to be present in lepton, please just let us know. Of course, the better way is providing code since, e.g. I, personally, am trying to work on too many tasks at the same time :-/ -- Vladimir