X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:40:27 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: "Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: [geda-user] Text on solder side not mirrored. In-Reply-To: <99f597de-3e1f-3db1-9872-14b09b809bbf@fastmail.com> Message-ID: References: <99f597de-3e1f-3db1-9872-14b09b809bbf AT fastmail DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > BTW: I had no problem determining what check-boxes were checked in my GTK > 1.2.10/2.24.31/3.18.9 system. In mine, they are radial buttons, not > check-boxes. I compile from source and I have no GTK specification in the > configure options, so I am not sure if it is using GTK1 or GTK2. Probably not > GTK3 yet. As always, I recommend using pcb-rnd, because this is one of the many things that got upgraded, in multiple ways: - the layer selector widget on the left side of top window reflects the physical layer grouping, so it's much easier to detect if your layer is in the wrong place in the stack: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/layersel.png (the truncated vertical text are the layer group names, the phytsical thing, tooltip expands the name) - instead of the strange matrix in preferences, pcb-rnd offers a cross-section view of the board where you can manipulate both physical layer groups and logical layers with simple drag and drop: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/csect.png (shows a different stackup than the other screenshot) - unlike the matrix, this also works in the lesstif HID - you can export the cross section view in gerber, so it can be sent tot he fab as human process doc to accompany the pack to make sure the right thing happens (geber file naming itself is not a clear mapping of physical layers, there's no gerber mapping format, so there's a lot of human factor in the fab process) - you can even dump a text version: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/csect.txt (shows yet another stackup) Btw, in the rare case you want your text mirrored: it's possible to change the onsolder flag from the property editor (accessible via the right click or propedit action). Of course it is still possible to do this by text editing the board file, but by now pcb-rnd has a generic GUI way for changing such things. Result: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/onsolder.png HTH, Igor2