X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 04:33:23 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: [geda-user] RFC: edacore - should we reboot it? the EDA ecosystem In-Reply-To: <58A5F330.4090000@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: References: <58A5F330 DOT 4090000 AT xs4all DOT nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Hi Bert, On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > people leave ... please do not expect that islands and landmasses will shift I think we agree on this. My ecosystem/bridge idea is exactly that we leave islands alone, exactly where they are, but let people (and data) move. > The only addition I have to this write-up is about "Standardization": if we > state that a certain (file) format is compliant with a (defacto) standard (for > instance DXF, Verilog, HTML, VRML, STEP, etc.) it should be, it's *not* one of > the things "We are not REQUIRED to do" ... yes we are required to do so, users > depend on it, we can't do "almost" here ... and I really want the gcode bugs > in pcb squashed ... lack of free cycles is preventing me ... I have to dig > into gcode first, before I can tweak the exporter. I think thre's a misunderstanding here. I never proposed to make partial implementations of existing large standards. I proposed that if we have a specific problem within a group of islands, the only one choice is NOT to pick an existing standard and drop that on the problem. I proposed that it's a totall viable alternative to make a new custom "standard" and follow that. My proposal especially mentioned the case when the existing standard is unfeasible (large, complicated, non-free, unaccessible, etc.) so it just doesn't happen for years, while we can sit down and make something that does happen by tomorrow. I also don't propose that one way (one standard, one birdge) should exclude any other. I only propose we should not abandon the idea to get things down just because someone else invented something before and we feel like we must not "reinvent" things. Regards, Igor2