X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QrZp29mckrmGkNy4eoSVJlNoGU42O/PTTk+i5TRpSN4=; b=MoNzTA3Fq3QqWjIJsjG2HJJNUKvAO5CrbMZIQ1gUOcQiMbyZ4gBkaNGVLuGElW4UTi 3RgZUp872aGObb9Cz2bc8OSzRmtkNh+pqLWcEACfDbLYJC4d9KrSp9uE7Qv8/u+BSypF KHqgkefGQbi2htMc5d7j7d7sDei+Qz7z1eDdfv4gpruu/S83kO22U15nbrMFv5wAsLl7 pxy0fJ5i5N+H6kK6d48rTFYXwNJ6r8SJcKwO0lsu1qfg7XO2YoE4XUa6zs3TYZaIgEAd jQCA0ZxB4YpNW0t3FVA+DXTrcQRSIhEyk+jXenusw0lzL5Mv9svmXb6GNjBwIagcEw3O feLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QrZp29mckrmGkNy4eoSVJlNoGU42O/PTTk+i5TRpSN4=; b=OL40KV2QjcVFqQnlvzmQ2OIbGZl8eBe5WXPmLTtESmf2x60Kp2TJxErQO6QvyRViTY mYIVrA2tnUUMesJX96Ja3ZGY0djDvp97YzJkAh9slooaNwvg2Jp3etYuHJ1a1gxEgMJs miCmc+FRxNemXCE8l2F8EBY3HAmOwhbn9MN09usg70jrrQxXcAgtjdjPVkwrNZHMMajn vErUa/nqi8dalWnq/VQVFbOuDI4hJjoF6yEAsvNXnQU175SavM5YwqNS31qilsungbRg ZDZIoLGoRMkNEOApuI9vtnrxSkeXCPFs4UROv81U3rzGmvq+E+ExXAmMbCn7FiRCYupX 1hxA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvf1bn1ufx4syNKA3816d898e9wriMphXW3eN6cL778lTxz76AtSTD/p1tyHroO8vw== X-Received: by 10.99.108.8 with SMTP id h8mr34642926pgc.93.1478979568626; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 11:39:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb file format To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <0d49697a-80c7-d588-859a-56bc542f7e5d AT ecosensory DOT com> From: "Charles Repetti (charlie94965 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: <0e07c994-a50f-6daa-709b-420a58121cc2@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 11:39:27 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Got you, thanks for the clarification. Since I use a contract fab/assembly, I've never worked directly with a stencil for one of my designs, though I've seen them at trade shows. On 11/12/16 10:24 AM, John Griessen (john AT ecosensory DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 11/12/2016 11:00 AM, Charles Repetti (charlie94965 AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> Pad [rX1 rY1 rX2 rY2 Thickness Clearance Mask "Name" "Number" SFlags] >> >> So the solder mask (paste) layer is defined per pad as "Mask", and >> for me has been the most important parameter to get right. The >> different manufacturers have different capabilities, and their DFM >> tools can be used to highlight this. > > > The guidelines for qfn packages say to use a wider solder-mask than > copper for best soldering results, > and yet paste is usually an area less than pads to avoid shorts from > squishing out as the part hits > during assembly, and to go along with the thickness of low cost > stencils made of plastic, since they are > thicker than laser cut SS or electrodeposited nickel stencils. > > Paste layer is generated and can be different than solder mask by a > shrink or bloat amount. > That's what I was asking about. It needs to be per pad, since a large > center pad on a qfn package or > other land grid package might need different paste amount depending on > vias or whether there > is a group of blobs of paste wanted. > > There is no way with the current file format to allow arrayed blobs of > paste except as > a double layer group where one large pad is flagged nopaste, and > smaller arrayed pads that overlap it have paste. >