X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at av02.lsn.net Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <5683FC1D DOT 4060006 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20151231021438 DOT 0FA26809D79D AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> From: John Griessen Message-ID: <5687266F.8060603@ecosensory.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 19:22:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151231021438.0FA26809D79D@turkos.aspodata.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 12/30/2015 08:14 PM, karl AT aspodata DOT se wrote: > That said, I'm somewhat surprised about the "we don't want scheme" > emphasis expressed in this mailing list. > > Look at a in some ways similar project:http://www.lilypond.org/ > They use c/c++/python/scheme with scripting in scheme only, and they > are successful at it. > > 1, So first point is: even if I'm not at ease with with or like > scheme, I do see that one can make great things with it. > > 2. Their users are not programmers, they are musicians and the like. > Why can they use scheme to such a great extent without any complaint > whatsoever, and not I (even though I "know how to program") ? > > 3, the experience of lilypond devs is that c/c++ is much harder to use > than scheme, and I get a impression that if they would start over > they would skip the c++ part in favour of scheme. I have even done some scheme before. I was putting out a review of what has been said, and I really like Vladimir's proposal to get the scheme inside gschem cleaned up. I would be able to contribute some in scheme, just not right now.