X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_16DC78C5-7F62-4C4E-9E81-A8A500C746DD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:13:57 -0600 Message-Id: <8F87A2A8-8DDC-4BB1-9DF7-AFC3E13C5BF3@noqsi.com> References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <20151016213030 DOT GC2813 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <56228E23 DOT 8060309 AT ecosensory DOT com> <2FAEEEF0-13A3-4F40-827C-4FAC04303B7F AT noqsi DOT com> <4E961FBD-9E20-4A8C-AE58-06E7902879F7 AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_16DC78C5-7F62-4C4E-9E81-A8A500C746DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:17 AM, John Doty wrote: >>=20 >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM, John Doty wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> In my humble opinion, this damages the project in >>>>> the long run. It already has done so since about 15 years. We see = the >>>>> result in the number of active developers of back-ends. >>>>=20 >>>> That=92s the =93development is a good thing=94 ideology. But in = reality, it=92s only a good thing if it=92s a good thing. In the early = days of gEDA, a variety of people wrote a variety of back ends. Is there = much need for more? There=92s more scope for plugins that *modify* back = end behavior, but we haven=92t really created that culture. On my todo = list. >>>=20 >>> No this is the "long term project maintenance requires a modest >>> developer base." Nothing in Kai-Martin's email said anything about >>> development just the availability of warm bodies who can contribute >>> something. >>=20 >> But that hasn=92t been a problem. >=20 > Imagine a trend line over time for the data Kai-Martin was talking > about and it will become apparent. Why would I expect such a trend if an actual need were to emerge? There = are enough Schemers around, but why should we fix what isn=92t broken? >=20 >>>=20 >>>> That said, I approve of new tools with new scripting languages and = paradigms. >>>=20 >>> +1 >>>=20 >>>> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. >>>> http://www.noqsi.com/ >>>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Home >>> http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ >>> Work >>> http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. >> http://www.noqsi.com/ >> jpd AT noqsi DOT com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Home > http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ > Work > http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ >=20 >=20 John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_16DC78C5-7F62-4C4E-9E81-A8A500C746DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWJbF2AAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRB5IP/38BsnHB4mLaS6E/MIQKFDKc 2oZWsJQZg3iH8SPXWTP9V/Wci6xcka5LvEUi+Uxxvb8+HeyulqIeakwwaT2nRVf/ lEPzlWaBctRj7qxUTXekdRxO7X+0+ApIc2rjl1w5t8VWXy4cUanprJcstyzmPCKj k/8W2tKT5Ep3+DqxfIlLq1hHTxmvz2whD5z5Hbqgc1pdiXlw7yVSBNN0rCIjlagk K2e94Vy0wzAsOcRMSN5Y1RkrY9yi7oonrc6661vhRy9gEkiJoduM0WsDFBQtah1c SeNjNIthjgIuuHqIy8v76U7IePBkdi8HNcS1etyst55okk9HVDv3e63Dx1tj5670 9X+nFGHoIIAa8nrR7H1zEsNIYyqJcoqjItIeL/2lVU+Ofo24uswmqUWE+tI+zwEk /ZktnSc8CovZwOs2sZdwy8Jv6q20mELP5U7c3WO57njp+XYHGUwALm2dLuqyzZN+ YauZWF/+6Ak8KtcQ3OhGDxJ7Wkw8n9HhP/WaBzT9VVIPxYILBDpMHV1IQ+dNkRC/ rn6zgYSlhoclDitvsPCH+xUdwVZyJXhvgr2xN20OSQ0d27KvuuFCm+qrilyZSbtG zAzpQ/8fHLBV6yZQMNtOZJmfDPhG6nooMT8LW8Md7qLhh853OVTa0D306WZDkeRA Ba8W6I0vOBD/PAa+bIdz =yLvg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_16DC78C5-7F62-4C4E-9E81-A8A500C746DD--