X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4A70A47E-C65B-4E35-AEBF-058C229BB767"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <20151014084734.47c681e21a7a6f2ab1a6b86f@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:23 -0600 Message-Id: <9E26BFD4-A144-44E4-BEDC-98C4E1822DA7@noqsi.com> References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <34B17816-9EA5-45FD-BFB4-9D623A8D3D87 AT noqsi DOT com> <20151014084734 DOT 47c681e21a7a6f2ab1a6b86f AT gmail DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_4A70A47E-C65B-4E35-AEBF-058C229BB767 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 14, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Nicklas Karlsson = (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: >>> Please not in libgeda or the geda-gaf core tools. That has = tremendous potential to break things. geda-gaf is a mature toolkit in = production use: changes to the core should not be taken lightly. New = tools and new plug-ins are great. We have a transparent schematic format = and powerful scripting mechanisms to give us power and to allow us to = keep that power from interfering with each other=92s objectives. >>=20 >> We could prototype it via a plugin but in the long term it should >> really be in the core. To be honest I find your "don't touch the core >> you will break something" attitude kind of insulting. I am not out to >> change how we have kept the concept of connections in libgeda and = nets >> in gnetlist. I just want to mirror the flat net model that already >> exists in the core with a more nuanced and yet to be decided >> structure. >=20 > Yes if we want improvements we must accept changes which make it = happen. >=20 If we use the power of the architecture, we can make those changes = without the hazard. We have a transparent file format and a powerful = scripting facility. One source of this controversy is that many = developers won=92t use Scheme. Fine, but then you can=92t responsibly = work on improving gschem or gnetlist because everything not in Scheme = takes away from the flexibility. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_4A70A47E-C65B-4E35-AEBF-058C229BB767 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWHluDAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRQeMP/0h7EkQEJW6Q5/mBab4ki8Zo is6xxAfGv5N0GkzUEooJIZttlvBNQgjbkOMUU6KfFW6RdmryAyuHdxWUADyAtlLo 6xlMXpezQFThY5d8CpVo6nshftdBmegLl7yZtRZQOgG069tZXjQ/Ea+lOTlHLZRh gZs4k8o0VVshdZj6jwFstLzeXTJQtCXf+neLERjDuEoDy2mlCsuJkANhTxlFcT4a GrUn5gQkGmpElc1WLTHbGYN8U7IKSxT1awZvoL5Rel6I71Z3aPCfsBF/uM9QrdjD esoQLg8R83OzYCwBGgDj2BuRd9r18ueF6/qNmnwJ3J6FlkRFUs91cTkmCgq+G8wk 0Ra9hLfoRW8urwTCyLjIRo15l6inkg3Y+qxHfjzaAk5pPFAnPllbuFqJ+k9we1GV u88yo1O8TWLB25y6kWiH/dRzi2LllPqgcb3QkEjdeHxa1RV79IUyWjs6qodmodPK 5Q+0e1Uf1SeE1nwG2Fd1cd8o8Jd9iTu9XRE8guxTeA8zitgK1bvckXNypGvZqygE Ld1EBlAJgpAacYCoGbkP6518LVB3WbZ7wgb6MY9DPANI7Cp+4WLGr7gFN5RrkR5z dBpIHFB5dJcYIk2dU3/fH+bzB0dQbp4HLbAwib6+U6yzEARRmWcQO7/cN9zQp7s/ tK20Eerpa6Fiiyf+TcDD =DaKF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_4A70A47E-C65B-4E35-AEBF-058C229BB767--