X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_02DFE3A7-F046-4065-9C76-FDCC5CE753F0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:16:57 -0600 Message-Id: <39FF6208-7D45-4DE8-9AEE-1ED1B512705B@noqsi.com> References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <34B17816-9EA5-45FD-BFB4-9D623A8D3D87 AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_02DFE3A7-F046-4065-9C76-FDCC5CE753F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 13, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > We could prototype it via a plugin but in the long term it should > really be in the core. What advantage does that have? I see none. > To be honest I find your "don't touch the core > you will break something" attitude kind of insulting. You shouldn=92t be insulted. It=92s like TeX: you don=92t touch the = core, you put everything in style files. Geda-gaf isn=92t *that* well = engineered, but it=92s pretty good: the burden of necessity of change = should be high. =93If it ain=92t broke, don=92t fix it=94 is just good = engineering. Despite Peter Brett=92s great work, we simply don=92t have the tests = necessary to insure that changes to the core don=92t affect somebody=92s = flow. Geda-gaf can do all sorts of things (even generate makefiles ;-). = Can you guarantee that you won=92t disturb this? I absolutely don=92t = want a tool paralyzed by the interactions of added features. I recall an attempt by a core developer to make SPICE netlisting better = that broke slotting for layout. He shouldn=92t have put a SPICE-specific = feature in the core: there were better ways to solve the problem. I = would hope that our more mature project wouldn=92t release a blunder = that bad, but more subtle problems cannot be excluded. > I am not out to > change how we have kept the concept of connections in libgeda and nets > in gnetlist. I just want to mirror the flat net model that already > exists in the core with a more nuanced and yet to be decided > structure. But the burden I=92d lay on you is to show that this *needs* to be in = the core. If not, it doesn=92t belong there. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_02DFE3A7-F046-4065-9C76-FDCC5CE753F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWHZ76AAoJEF1Aj/0UKykR/2IP/1LU9DFfZjWalFg/jV4lhn7h YSknTII4K0jt1w5XLagqSZ/ADz1MI6l2TEU5X/Nvn/0sLt1Z7kw2R9dZmoNPmWZf Tf+kQlKwzE8+CNDtQPOD5p3czgzBkjuywuqMWB8fuEu8x6/gNqoCVtPg9UvZvDsh S7Uc8un2gGgV61McIvSvzw31408zfgKGFH4lA10NzSzzvrlv2BfEyhbRzKCo+lL2 rFE0Lrh0QN7UVdJ3Ag4T1SnCOMu4lFiaQ/FJMp5v+X3jvrmhtwYE8xsV8S1aCxDL O9G0YdMfZMXqXL8MbwiZ6CyxESpUHClEEQBoP5mlCnqh3OlWPT+FMyH0KofKqnrO FCtJ4jThcIt72zMo5FSt/RhH1mJx7aHStyZazgbFiHPLdyz9pXH/mLFJyYC1xpXt qicDUzPOF7wUVBe9OtGTepwRHqmBQF5tH+zduSe7r49RQ3X+9WpAk7uyQM1/FRfi wpPorYQo/M54/SFCM7pb1LARKm+3bZz0j0tXZQ+kCuYyGxxrYTW21BezC5rqt0bI rhZvA+mitmHVLOFaQCqxW8sW203Szw3uUrfkuooczWcH7jf7b/V8Ej36EPWJhzlY BlEuMhEapMR7KnrvI/m75JDJ28YOY0usssXZcyhpJYGFMPU9OdR0qwP+ryzhuDRx KLhZ5EunnuQLSJbgTDAv =t+nU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_02DFE3A7-F046-4065-9C76-FDCC5CE753F0--