X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at av02.lsn.net Message-ID: <560EAC06.5050904@ecosensory.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:08:38 -0500 From: John Griessen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Re: Stop playing stupid political games with gEDA References: <0788cca443ca40a88d6e21f1a216a759 AT net2air DOT co> <560D81CE DOT 1010800 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201510012211 DOT t91MBXPI025587 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <560DB972 DOT 30203 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201510012306 DOT t91N6MXc027775 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <560DCC35 DOT 9010505 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201510020041 DOT t920fM6o031268 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <560DE183 DOT 4060305 AT jump-ing DOT de> In-Reply-To: <560DE183.4060305@jump-ing.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 10/01/2015 08:44 PM, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> In what way do the existing pcb and geda-gaf groups discourage >> >contributors or deny contributions? > That's indeed the question. Now you have both, a closed team existing > for years, zero membership gain in the last five years, coding almost > halted except for gschem. And you have another team, gaining 5 members > in 10 days and just as many substantial code contributions (not counting > mine) in that time. > > Compare yourself! > > >> >in that >> >you need to replicate their purpose (bug tracking) elsewhere? > The bug tracker is a unified one for all of gEDA. Not very obvious, > because so far almost only pcb bugs were added there, but that's the plan. > > >> >And if they*are* deficient, why aren't you proposing instead to fix >> >them? > I wrote this repeatedly already. At the risk of sounding like a broken > record: I tried, and was shown the door. The same happened to many others. > > With gEDAhead this problem is gone. gEDAhead welcomes everybody. So, Markus seems to be advocating more of a fork than a consolidation of project docs, bug tracks, email lists. Markus seems impatient about a FOSS project. I think talking over ideas and writing up plans is a great way to get progress for gEDA, and if some good code gets written on a new fork of gEDA, it will just be more hassle to merge it into gEDA by being in a separate repository. gEDAhead is not something google indexes yet. Before it does, I ask that the forked project name changes to anything that is not a superset of gEDA. Are you the one with the keys to that, Markus? If so, I ask you. John Griessen