X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:19:03 -0700 Message-Id: <8178048D-EA74-440B-ADA5-F6505791424C@noqsi.com> References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t14MJAoY018800 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Edward Hennessy wrote: > >> On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Hagen SANKOWSKI wrote: >> >> :-) >> >> Quoting Svenn Are Bjerkem : >> >>> We just need to agree which scripting language to use for the flow. /Duck >> >> No flame war please - SCNR? 20 years this Scheme vs. Tcl stuff is now glowing.. >> >> Well, gEDA is using Scheme while ngspice has clearly a Tcl Interface. BTW, >> the commercial EDA world is dominated by Tcl as you certainly know. How about >> a more pragmatic approach - using Guile with Tcl-interpreting macros or contrary. >> I am comfortable with *booth* languages. >> > > I would like to see a more popular languages evaluated. For example: > > - Languages that recent college graduates would already know > - Languages that have a large number of books and reference material > > Using a popular language, to me, would increase the potential number of contributors. Well, the choice of Scheme was clearly from the MIT 6.001 influence. Every EECS student at MIT takes that class, but I think many on the EE side really didn’t “get” it very well when it was built around Scheme. MIT has recently switched to Python. Both were originally intended as teaching languages, but Scheme implements a theorist’s vision of programming, while Python is more pragmatic. Python is thus far more widely known and used. It also has a much more extensive collection of modules. A toolkit like gEDA winds up making connections to other tools and toolkits. Python is better suited to making these connections than Scheme is. > > Cheers, > Ed > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com