X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <5150361F.70101@estechnical.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:33:51 +0000 From: Ed Simmons User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: Iain Paton Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb layers & shortcuts References: <5150341D DOT 2050406 AT gmail DOT com> In-Reply-To: <5150341D.2050406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-As: ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 25/03/2013 11:25, Iain Paton wrote: > I've used gschem& pcb on and off for many years, but recently my usage has spiked considerably and a couple of problems have started to become quite annoying. > Google and the faq aren't helping me, > > First is that muscle memory has me using Alt-S to change hole sizes, but this now brings up a menu instead of changing the size. Doing what Alt-S used to do is now an akward manual excercise through a two level deep menu. Is there a better way, or a way to get the old behaviour back ? > > Second is that I rarely, if ever, want an 8 layer board. Editing the layers through File/Preferences is fine, but has to be done for every board. I found $HOME/.pcb/preferences which contains layer and group definitions, but if I edit these then they're ignored and over-written with the default 8 layer setup every time I restart pcb, similarly using --groups 1,c:2,s on the command line is ignored. Using the groups string in pcbrc also appears to be ignored. > > Somewhere in my attempts to solve this I've ended up with File/Preferences showing 8 layers, but drawing lines on a blank pcb nothing shows up at all - saving the file and opening it in an editor shows that it has a line Groups("") and I now have to manually edit the file and add the correct groups before re-opening it in pcb, trying to edit the layers in File/Preferences has no effect in the saved file. > > I can't be the only one who wants their own layer configuration and would like it to stick as a default. So how do I do it ? Config file I've missed, or do I just have to find the place it's defined in the source change it and recompile ? > Hi Iain, I'm not able to look at PCB right now, I'm on windows :( but I recall there being a 'use this as default for all designs' checkbox somewhere in the sizes/layers preferences which saves the current settings for layers etc and will then start new designs with these settings. I'd start a new design, fiddle until you're happy, tick that box then quit. Repeat this process making a new design each time to check the settings until you're happy. As for key mappings, a lot changed, I'm not sure - perhaps some else can help here... Best, Ed -- Ed Simmons ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk www.estechnical.co.uk