X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-authentication-warning:date:from:x-x-sender:to:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:x-virus-scanned:x-virus-status; bh=ihmDHuQB+SfDPxXu8umQ/8AuOKAaQNAXKiyLCKKKWuQ=; b=OAYlif9AP4aKsXSYno82z3t0oQ3pSDTYcSSROzeyNUUYcxc/1AiKBlnHHZaYgqFID/ 5hQNL51XH6hV/SVYUwWy2ApQT2dDSsGqAYdh8Hqemot3qkk4W0neyBeejyFYR7Tofko3 nb8gP013ABeK10U1L5ebnByNgdjqdIvCECX5CHWvtNK5E6RAg+JZgfF7VbaYI7kKg4/u DGgx9Zw2/H+80CpH8o+I3bFgdsjmRBt91FAFb6yDkScXs+3L2NImMNsTBtehE/9zmyBa 7oSrYFTGFbOv6Y5TyetzrXp0kXh8VUAeUvKNKsIYvhWSQwOYlIpL1RIKweAwDisKVyiW Q4Hg== X-Received: by 10.236.84.52 with SMTP id r40mr5466543yhe.94.1362075229011; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:13:49 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: grumpy2.grumpy-net: rray owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:13:45 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4at5v AT gmail DOT com X-X-Sender: rray AT grumpy2 DOT grumpy-net To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] surface mount confusion In-Reply-To: <512F8ECF.8070908@neurotica.com> Message-ID: References: <512F803B DOT 2040301 AT neurotica DOT com> <512F885D DOT 3000304 AT neurotica DOT com> <512F8ECF DOT 8070908 AT neurotica DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at grumpy2 X-Virus-Status: Clean Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 02/28/2013 12:00 PM, kqt4at5v AT gmail DOT com wrote: >>>>>> Being a beginner with not so steady a hand I choose to stick to >>>>>> through hole devices But I just tried a simple board with a soic >>>>>> chip I made a breakout board for TPIC2810D 1 chip and a single >>>>>> row header of 16 pins The board is single sided so the chip is on >>>>>> the solder side and the header is on the opposite side I setup >>>>>> the board so pin 1 of the chip is connected to pin 1 of the >>>>>> header and so on When viewed in pcb the traces appear not be >>>>>> connected correctly but when I export to gcode they are correct >>>>>> Would someone set an old fella straight >>>>> >>>>> I would love to help but I'm not sure I understand specifically >>>>> what the problem is...can you describe what you mean by "traces >>>>> appear not to be connected correctly"? >>>>> >>>>>> If I were to try this on a more complex board it would make me >>>>>> crossed eyed >>>>> >>>>> Nah...I lay out surface mount PCBs and build prototypes for them >>>>> all the time. It's just a different skill set from doing >>>>> through-hole work. I actually despise through-hole work anymore, >>>>> and minimize it when possible. (not just due to the additional >>>>> assembly cost when a design goes to volume production!) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I attached screwed up pcb >>> >>> Ok. At first glance, it appears that the traces are on the bottom >>> (solder) side of the board...they will of course make contact with the >>> through-hole header pins, but the footprint for the TPIC2810D is on the >>> top (component) side of the board...there will be no electrical >>> connection to them. >>> >>> You'll need to either redraw those traces on the top side of the >>> board, move the chip to the bottom of the board, or use vias to get >>> those signals up to the top of the board. Get it? >> >> Got it >> This was good little practice > > Yes. Good luck with your board! > One off topic question Can I save the setting for gcode export I have to reset all of them every time Richard