X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-authentication-warning:date:from:x-x-sender:to:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:x-virus-scanned:x-virus-status; bh=Fh6Imra1s4cw2aS0z9yZYzfuCAoBgM5XvbLEvNzl23M=; b=NPm8tsnXkoSFKyB89GzHlDgPAMt5MumLjRBdtQ/8AqJpYKUsDdNy/LTouAl+zojlKH qqCFo/8x+MqWZCVKZooNuiUIA7DeJWPEPzZZcvO6SHSEvP2GN33NXrZ1usT4utsnceLT pOKspbpPvxuFlulqyjvbXU0hQcWWtEYwKvcghoFGUmaSXzfSFyODfqFDeNlu0mpKoAMU QcJQjmyTRM82Ywpmt50kRxQXSrocv1SDSzUB9E+tWhL0fA0TjbVw4Zr4vAwgK49tvO+w Y7h06qEj8VxiBLraaZdZC+sFarjwNwzEdcKTnJGARZnQg8IV0cHBbKzyX8E5LuxKQ7CE 1oOQ== X-Received: by 10.236.73.135 with SMTP id v7mr5139618yhd.178.1362070846881; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:00:46 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: grumpy2.grumpy-net: rray owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:00:43 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4at5v AT gmail DOT com X-X-Sender: rray AT grumpy2 DOT grumpy-net To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] surface mount confusion In-Reply-To: <512F885D.3000304@neurotica.com> Message-ID: References: <512F803B DOT 2040301 AT neurotica DOT com> <512F885D DOT 3000304 AT neurotica DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at grumpy2 X-Virus-Status: Clean Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 02/28/2013 11:26 AM, kqt4at5v AT gmail DOT com wrote: >>>> Being a beginner with not so steady a hand I choose to stick to >>>> through hole devices But I just tried a simple board with a soic >>>> chip I made a breakout board for TPIC2810D 1 chip and a single >>>> row header of 16 pins The board is single sided so the chip is on >>>> the solder side and the header is on the opposite side I setup >>>> the board so pin 1 of the chip is connected to pin 1 of the >>>> header and so on When viewed in pcb the traces appear not be >>>> connected correctly but when I export to gcode they are correct >>>> Would someone set an old fella straight >>> >>> I would love to help but I'm not sure I understand specifically >>> what the problem is...can you describe what you mean by "traces >>> appear not to be connected correctly"? >>> >>>> If I were to try this on a more complex board it would make me >>>> crossed eyed >>> >>> Nah...I lay out surface mount PCBs and build prototypes for them >>> all the time. It's just a different skill set from doing >>> through-hole work. I actually despise through-hole work anymore, >>> and minimize it when possible. (not just due to the additional >>> assembly cost when a design goes to volume production!) >>> >> >> I attached screwed up pcb > > Ok. At first glance, it appears that the traces are on the bottom > (solder) side of the board...they will of course make contact with the > through-hole header pins, but the footprint for the TPIC2810D is on the > top (component) side of the board...there will be no electrical > connection to them. > > You'll need to either redraw those traces on the top side of the > board, move the chip to the bottom of the board, or use vias to get > those signals up to the top of the board. Get it? > Got it This was good little practice Thanks Richard