X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 13:05:07 -0400 Message-Id: <201505191705.t4JH57E8010700@envy.delorie.com> From: DJ Delorie To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com In-reply-to: (fork@lllljunkqwer.cpm) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: DJGPP 2.05 beta 1 References: <201505042003 DOT t44K3odg011007 AT delorie DOT com> <55501DAD DOT 1080604 AT iki DOT fi> <55579278 DOT 8090301 AT iki DOT fi> <555829A6 DOT 8010502 AT iki DOT fi> <555870E8 DOT 7040302 AT iki DOT fi> <201505180114 DOT t4I1EiaX017288 AT delorie DOT com> <201505181216 DOT t4ICGaKO014123 AT delorie DOT com> <83zj52dkns DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> <83wq05eukk DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> <83twv9espx DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> <83siater66 DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > Sigh, here we go again with Eli ... Sigh, here we go again with Rod ... > However, you eventually respond this way to *EVERYBODY* ... I re-read the thread, and Eli asked a perfectly valid (if unexpected) question, and rather than respect the question, the OP disrespected the poster. Given that the issue is complex and yet still not fixed, suggestions for the rare-but-possible cases are justified. The only people who should be insulted by such suggestions are those who have already solved the problem, or already tried the advice indicated, not those who are still trying to figure it out. We've seen a lot of wierd bugs in the past, so if we suggest something completely out of the blue, it's probably because it's happened before. > rudely So you see it. I don't. > ask them if they're sure Or, in this case, if they've considered the case where the compiler might be lying to them about what it's doing. > after they just spent a huge amount of time understanding the issue. Yet still not solving. > perception of others which is abnormal? ... D.J. and Charles seem If you've been around all this time, why don't you spell my name correctly yet? "I'm insulted, and assume you're doing it on purpose just to annoy me[*]." Take the time to be precise in what you write, and consider all the ways it can be read, and perhaps you'll have less conflict with people who don't know you. It's a lesson I've learned the hard way over the decades. Heck, I can't even tell when my brother is joking in an email, and I've known him all his life. [*] I'm not insulted, I assume you're innocently mistaken, just using it as an example of how people can mis-read others' posts. > to be the only people who haven't taken offense at one time or another > to you in all that time, but you don't respond that way to them, even > when D.J. has no knowledge of the issue at hand. I've gotten all sorts of responses from Eli. Often, he's right. He's earned the right to suggest stupid things to me, because sometimes the stupid is on my side. Also, I've learned to look at conversations from the other point of view, in case it's just a misunderstanding or miscommunication. Remember, Eli's native language is *not* English, despite how well he speaks it. > HTH, It doesn't.