Message-Id: <199908142250.SAA05386@delorie.com> From: "Dan Gold" To: Subject: Re: newbie Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:28:50 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Well this isn't totally a response to your problem but it might help you figure out what may have gone wrong. You should have gone to the http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ websight and went through their zip picker to find the files you need. After downloading you make a directory to put DJGPP and then unzip everything from the files with the -d extension (note: unzip all from the same directory). Read the readme in the faq section and put the things in your autoexec and thats it, you should be able to compile. If there are more than one file with the same filename it's probably the same file in more than one zip so just overwrite all. Hope you found what you did wrong in this. From Dan Gold... -=-=[CATACOMB ABYSS]=-=- ---------- From: Neil Prestemon To: 'djgpp AT delorie DOT com' Subject: newbie Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:35 PM Hi, I recently studied the C language, and I was looking for a cheap/free(beer) solution to actually writing C programs, and eventually C++, for Windows (as opposed to spending hundreds of dollars on MSVC++ and assorted SDKs). I've messed around with a few other potential situations, and it looks like DJGPP is really the only good one. I checked readme.1st, and the FAQ, and I tried to check the mail list, but the server seems extremely taxed. I downloaded the files your zipfinder said to download, and I installed them as per the instructions, (on NT 4.0), using pkunzip.exe (all in the same directory, with "-d" to create subdirectories), and I got a buttload of filename collisions, and errors about being unable to create files. Some of the collisions were on exe's (which tends to worry me a lot more than collisions on readme.1st revisions), and some of the create errors were on files with multiple extensions; "something.something.orig" IIRC. I was concerned because when pkunzip hits a filename collision, it doesn't tell you about timestamps, so you can't even make an intelligent choice based on which is the latest, and the create errors, there's nothing you can do about, it just scrolls up off the screen. So without spending the rest of the day trying to install this stuff, I just used Winzip, to at least avoid the create errors, and give me the timestamps for collisions so I could make a rational choice. I have no idea whether the omission of these files, or substitution of the newer files in collision cases would cause harm to the installation or functionality. So what I'm asking for, is basically, some guidance on how these collisions should have been handled - take the newer file, take the older file, did I get the wrong zipfiles? etc. And also on whether, if I unzip using pkunzip, do these file-create errors cause difficulty, or can they be ignored, and also, if I unzip using winzip, what exactly is going to go wrong (because of the long filenames) and is there a workaround (like changing some setting in a text file somewhere to force 8.3 alias use, or renaming certain files). I'm discouraged that if I'm having this much trouble with simply installing the stuff, that maybe using it or even programming period is just beyond my mental capacity. I mean, I've been gainfully employed in the computer industry for over 7 years, I just don't know why this stuff is so hard for me. I just want to pick up some new skills and make myself less likely to get laid off when I'm 35, but I don't want to unload a whole lot of cash on MSVC++, but I don't live in a college dorm where I have hordes of Linux guru's sitting around waiting to help me with simple little problems like this. I've attached a directory listing of my installation, and the zipfiles I downloaded, I moved to a top-level directory called "zipsets". <> I hope you can help me with this simple problem, Thanks, Neil Prestemon neil DOT prestemon AT veritas DOT com ----------