DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 615ERuZS1273591 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 615ERuZS1273591 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=Pj/ajdeb X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 1BB764BA23C3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1770301674; bh=xU/5qX3FX7nLH6LqZ/6NAgl1a6OWY4rhEDEiWd5oyy0=; h=Date:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=Pj/ajdebJUJ0r2af4quG7r/kVs+fil6ppTOaIoeNNA7M8TkTydy/ja+08SHNVeCDI vhDaJ9zkIf/l655zUdtpfqeK4SWOEzdVcMSi8tntLWozv7eeA4No6iOLDqse/shzCY Io7Srf6QqPoReYn8dElRRJ87qMMUB7eewRwtljpg= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 895574BA2E0A Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 15:27:35 +0100 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Why does Cygwin always use absolute paths instead of OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES.RootDirectory? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <9e2c81eb-03ea-46ca-83e3-8adf5aa31934 AT SystematicSW DOT ab DOT ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Corinna Vinschen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On Feb 4 23:50, Dan Shelton via Cygwin wrote: > On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 at 22:37, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: > > > > On 2026-02-04 14:17, Dan Shelton via Cygwin wrote: > > > Why does Cygwin always use absolute paths instead of > > > OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES.RootDirectory in NtOpenFile(), > > > NtSetInformationFile() for rename and hardlinks > > > > > > This slows down Cygwin path lookups a lot, and with lots of path > > > elements each lookup with a relative RootDirectory might be a lot > > > faster, e.g. for openat(), linkat(), renameat(). > > > > Because volunteers' spare time is limited, and performance is good enough for > > those who might do the work: > > Please do not slap me. That hurt. > > My question is about whether there are any technical issues which > prevent OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES.RootDirectory from being used in Cygwin for > openat(). Yes. Obviously it would be nice to be able to use relative paths and a dir handle with openat and friends, but there are a few technical reasons not to do that: - Relative paths are length restricted. They can only contain up to 256 chars. - Relative paths can't contain ".." and ".", so you can't do something like openat (dirfd, "../myfile", ...) without changing the path to an absolute path. - Relative paths could cross Cygwin symlinks and Cygwin mount points. - Relative paths could just as well cross virtual FS boundaries, like /proc, /dev/. - Last but not least, the underlying path_conv class doesn't handle directory handle relative paths. The history of this function is just as old as Cygwin itself, about 30 years. I took a stab at rewriting the function a couple of times in the last couple of years but never got around to any workable code before giving up. It's a pretty convoluted piece of code and writing a drop-in replacement is a multi-month job. This very much collides with my day job, which isn't Cygwin-related at all. > 2nd question: Is OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES.RootDirectory really a root, and > you cannot do cd ..? If I understand your question correctly, yes. Because of the second bullet point above. Corinna -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple