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> [1] points to [2] which has this information.
>
> I don't know how we can make that more obvious.
>
> [1] https://cygwin.com/install.html#source
> [2] https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html
>

Although this is quite old, I still wonder what was Jon Turney
thinking when he wrote the above cynical/mocking reply. Was he
thinking that I was ""very desperate to contribute to an open source
project?""

I was offering my time to cygwin, so people should be happy that
cygwin got one more volunteer. But it looks like Jon Turney had
different thoughts. May be he was thinking that people desperately
want to contribute to open source software.

But actually that's not the case. There must be around a million
developers in this world but there are hardly 10,000 developers
contributing to open source projects.

So, a big big big majority of developers are not contributing to open
source. So, actually, no one is desperate to contribute to open
source.

And, after this reply of Jon Turney, I also didn't contribute to
cygwin because he offended me by his cynical/mocking reply.

By the way, I don't think that open source software is great except
LINUX KERNEL. But LINUX KERNEL is also great because companies are
contributing hardware/device drivers to the linux kernel. If no
company had contributed any hardware/device driver then probably LINUX
wouldn't have existed today or probably would have gone the MINIX way
(used for education).

So, the real stuff gets done in a company and not in open source.

Ethernet was invented in Xerox. First handheld mobile phone was
invented by Motorola. First smartphone with full web browsing
capability was invented by Apple. So, actually all inventions and
innovations in the software/hardware industry happened in companies
and not in open source.

So, no one in open source should think that they are doing something
really great.

By the way, I had contributed a few patches to the linux kernel a long
time ago and they were not at all cynical. I had also written a HOWTO
and the TLDP people were very helpful (and they were not cynical) and
when my HOWTO got published by TLDP, it became a homework assignment
in the computer science department of many colleges in the world.

But even then I didn't become cynical of anyone and I didn't mock anyone.

I have interacted with quite a few other open source developers from
other open source projects and my opinion is that a majority of open
source developers think like a frog in a well (A frog in a well thinks
that the well is the world and nothing exists outside of the well).

ChatGPT was developed by a company (OpenAI). Llama (AI) was also
developed by a company (Meta). So, real stuff happens in a company and
not in open source so open source people should not think that they
are the greatest people around.

Unix and C were also invented in a company (Bell System/Bell Labs).

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