DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 52SBO4Z23986661 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 52SBO4Z23986661 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=CpC7vXYY X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 3FC313842FFD DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1743161043; bh=ahHuGnz2FbQaAGspAtDhmOCJpEvBAImiz4lMTMOabew=; h=Date:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=CpC7vXYYGkVNmy60/vObvcYv/P1HFhpPo/67F62KfeWUIjOQB9dVttyGbwn9EkjwK jT+uo1cQ1H2DxmBNpSVg6G0CNIiPx5dF0h7xwMy1xcTzr21BvDjS3Ds1d26SBjZrML kaGBVdW+xaxvWoOrn0gaKuWrJRlIymhr/WVl6uU8= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 37D6138438AB Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 12:21:56 +0100 To: Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin Subject: Re: symbolic link curiousity in 3.6.0 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin , Bruno Haible References: <8758454b-bd9f-427b-9cc7-854ffd9b9596 AT maxrnd DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Corinna Vinschen , Bruno Haible Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On Mar 28 10:59, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote: > [Adding Bruno Haible] > > Hi Bruno, > > can you please take a look? To reiterate, with coreutils 9.6: > > $ ln -s foo bar > $ ls -l bar > ls: bar: Not supported > lrwxrwxrwx 1 corinna vinschen 3 Mar 27 10:20 bar -> foo > > The introducing commit in coreutils is apparently commit > b58e321c8d5dd ("ls: suppress "Permission denied" errors on NFS") > > The reason this works as expected on Linux but not on Cygwin is that the > underlying gnulib function file_has_aclinfo() differs between Linux and > Cygwin. On Cygwin, it's basically just a call to acl_get_file() since > Cygwin has the POSIX.1e functions but none of the extensions of Linux > or FreeBSD/NetBSD. > > As a result, when calling file_has_aclinfo("bar",...), the symlink > "bar" is always followed and file_has_aclinfo() returns with errno > set to ENOENT. > > See below for the rest of the story. > > Two questions: > > - Would you place the problem inside gnulib:file_has_aclinfo() or > coreutils:gobble_file()? > > Personally I think this is a coreutils problem rather than a > gnulib problem in that it fails to take ENOENT on symlinks into > account. > > - Would it make sense to implement the FreeBSD/NetBSD functions > acl_get_fd_np() and acl_get_link_np() in Cygwin? Theoretically > this should fix the problem without having to fix coreutils, > but I think coreutils really should take systems into account > which only have the documented POSIX.1e functions. > > What do you think? Ok, there's something fishy going on. Cygwin has acl_extended_file/acl_extended_file_nofollow. And after configure, gnulib's config.h contains this: #define USE_ACL 1 #define HAVE_ACL_GET_FILE 1 #define HAVE_ACL_EXTENDED_FILE 1 But for some reason I still have to figure out the coreutils 9.6 build doesn't use acl_extended_file/acl_extended_file_nofollow, but acl_get_file. Hmm... Corinna > > > Thanks, > Corinna > > On Mar 27 11:49, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote: > > [...] > > Ok, this looks like a coreutils 9.6 problem. > > > > What happens is that 9.6 `ls -l' tries to fetch the ACL of "bar". > > However, "bar" is a symlink, and the underlying acl_get_file() function > > resolves symlinks. What it does is, it tries to open("bar") for reading > > the ACL. This is resolved into "foo", which doesn't exist. So the open > > call returns ENOENT, and this is returned to the calling ls(1) function > > file_has_aclinfo(). > > > > Two frames up is the function gobble_file(). This function encounters a > > return value of -1 from the called function file_has_aclinfo_cache() > > with errno set to ENOENT. Next is a funny expression: > > > > bool cannot_access_acl = n < 0 && errno == EACCES; > > > > So cannot_access_acl is not set, because errno is not EACCES. > > > > 9 lines later, we have this expression: > > > > if (format == long_format && n < 0 && !cannot_access_acl) > > error (0, ai.u.err, "%s", quotef (full_name)); > > > > And this is what prints the "Not supported" error to stdout, because > > ai.u.err is preloaded earlier with ENOTSUPP. > > > > So the entire reason for the message is an (IMHO wrong) expectation in > > terms of calling acl_get_file() on a symlink. > > > > I'd be surprised if that doesn't occur on Linux as well, unless it's > > wrong that Cygwin's acl_get_file() follows symlinks. > > > > However, I checked this scenario codewise against libacl, which is the > > library providing acl_get_file() on Linux. > > > > ACLs on Linux are stored in extended attributes, and consequentially > > libacl's acl_get_file() calls getxattr(filename, ...) to fetch the ACL. > > Note, it calls getxattr, NOT lgetxattr, so it follows symlinks just as > > Cygwin's acl_get_file(). > > > > What surprises me is that you say it doesn't occur prior to the -327 > > test release. It occurs even back to 3.5.5 for me. The error occuring > > here shouldn't depend on the Cygwin version. "foo" doesn't exist and > > the open() behaviour of acl_get_file() has never changed for symlinks. > > > > > > Corinna > > > > -- > > Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html > > FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ > > Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html > > Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > -- > Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple