X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 432BB388701A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1586335524; bh=6zuHJjpsfY+Gi9hKs2TT5qZNzSylf5/PTnekl5H70eQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Reply-To:From; b=PvDjddWv2YJM94+3N6xXu8AVnCcuBesXCrt9c40n80xqmLKlRDeTrvfebLKSK3/O2 0pGaQVamhSrHwnX3cMaapVJ59pCJaeabn3k9GNPpcUu+G/cCT5y0+7rL02lZbf8G1a kmJuIlih1FhpGZJXZyxjC2JUPogTHVMg6oYMc3MY= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 7FF3B385BF81 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=corinna-cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:45:18 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Dropping 32 bit Cygwin? (was Re: segfault on 32bit) Message-ID: <20200408084518.GP3261@calimero.vinschen.de> Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20200408083443 DOT GN3261 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200408083443.GN3261@calimero.vinschen.de> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:d4tAmA4umBMn7qzI0TkfY+aO6m60eFm2m3wezszgZGR2to8v76i /siVekfUZiT3VVQyTBO7e6mZwuq6Jt/IEpuicEyFtZxQZtedfauc+YKmZN6aiJpRIx/dI7I Y/1dFQ/uCBKVydWW2oQbqxBanlyoSq2kYK6YGP2ra5NzUOWNSxwJArBCsppq0Qw51cW/Npi qlRpxnYvmwP4WEn8TH4LQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:XGpSuRdZ7ZQ=:QBitbIfYTRHKWzXkmegqao DjdsEYgyW2pdCdfAb6Ea79enGlPTX1rHEoQg+4+JgguPdTrL1/XXBOpRiTrFiZfa0VN0fQTR3 Uu6mNukXD/ufKfeakQcyhK2huEWU1uOLEReuLMQqj2Bivtk7gJDUiiJlkbKtPRZKyLWpHHP5D pjAF9Z815bMlmRE7R582L+9eGXK974zQJgQP4r7J4c4gGqhvfk7sPvClXlrkOgw/jAhSkiWy7 oM6em4ioyw/8DHcIVUw2XQIzYcBwnufkFiP1Id+SYQY1okLgiuZnuxpHDOw85IKK3hhWoQb7Q LsBlJaO2GLwlv+iY95QRdDzo4MjaFWiPwrLfzRZTxQCwNJ1qCc/s1vqYwfjnxH3oHA1Js2QOP utlAZ4PDtvzrNbrKKSq2Wew4ZZIt9O6+aATC1ENwCF9qDgvlZt1oWsn/pLwa8EQzPhnaeC3yC qUPHVifvlsN9SjRRkCxtDh8rWa4rNdBefBfW4DVJimWH//bB/29olMIawwx5he/3c5G+SIPdO EzZ72UZp5HYXG5SyxkxpPoqPLvlqU4nA22loh93uodvugB9HoUKyQ2RGoMPkL/BOo2zZPPc01 /Q3AddwHfsGV5n2NA7EMhsvvR0tICGyDd8PO9fZab1/ObdGopUvRaAaR4XXtYdyps0cVK9Yix 9m/ON9XLN2ilxkb8fADx1EI1y8z16OLBT+woPGjq3a9l5fsbR9SB+R7OY6juLbZaQ3A3SLkkq Qo1mnxuDt4TCg0H6vALfQuF4A44yshKnbhMQWriONoHn/EkcJnyRwz2XAAx2Esi8muX0OA3G9 8l1y12YBGIVeF03KLS8AWyQAVPWelaWwSCmCkpu3ZC1F5RX1si4YvDkPv4VlaVHJtLLe5Fb X-Spam-Status: No, score=-94.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NEUTRAL, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8450619759836104407==" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" --===============8450619759836104407== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QVzQgM+zdZ3YWXqn" Content-Disposition: inline --QVzQgM+zdZ3YWXqn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 8 10:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Right. This looks like a fork problem. It's 32 bit, so we have to > expect fork errors more often. >=20 > Given how much the distro has grown, and given that the number of 32 bit > systems is constantly shrinking, we should really start to think about > dropping 32 bit support. >=20 > Most users these days use 64 bit systems. Some use 32 bit Cygwin on 64 > bit systems, which doesn't really make sense, except, maybe, to build 32 > bit packages. These users can easily switch to 64 bit Cygwin. >=20 > The access statistics indicate that real 32 bit systems only make less > than 2% of installed systems. It's a lot of hassle to keep 32 bit > Cygwin running for only a minor installation base. >=20 > I'm not saying that we switch off 32 bit support right now, but maybe > 2020 should be the last year of 32 bit support. Oh, btw., time_t on 32 bit Cygwin is only 32 bit wide, so the end is near: 2038-01-19 03:14:07 UTC. 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