X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=ow7DWoPMVdLihPAM dsNd0xALHfTAj0Rp+aE1qS0qMXylBc+bs1q3OZK3Z199f75ApXhpbjxETLUga0tQ lhD7Q9vO23ZBiKxFyE2Q+A7AKBZaBOvfo+tYPxMuOHa6kbfWmeAxgw5aV5+ma9yy qRt014rFv/dAQ1zGvthAV5INJsQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=5y7E/V9DC03kEx3EN+rcCo vl2CU=; b=i2Yvx0bYkKWItD122DAlUlRo27g5dd7koEgzIASndHAYxIxHDGVR6t Av8zAjKN3fMEw4sO4TrmbPNGcdyK+OBgWn/dCrJFtW2fIVxqGkzD7ITwTnyxx7An DsjjTejbZ6bm68dUEZazoAX2Ms0UZhdMe5ySnYNIU344jL3wHlB+A= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,LIKELY_SPAM_SUBJECT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=calgary, Calgary, alberta, Alberta X-HELO: smtp-out-no.shaw.ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=KLEqNBNo c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:117 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=82XOVZ_bcgWAQp1Wn9YA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 Reply-To: Brian DOT Inglis AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca Subject: Re: Need help with multibyte UTF-8 characters To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <626a3c06-e9f2-1932-f1f3-47ddb2051215 AT gmail DOT com> <89a7d883-e3e5-42d7-2d22-020cdf6ccbdf AT towo DOT net> From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: <8d811915-176f-c9f5-6500-364e494142f7@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:40:50 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <89a7d883-e3e5-42d7-2d22-020cdf6ccbdf@towo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHe8/By02jxeXOF1YxDkwNnKzJyv9YRmJqWlBPV42uqOg1OVFdj6c5GT7/NFQRWd4EHWeiMkPgr1rvEtFsFl604ndNfD+Rqc58EOcxGT5h6j+Lmnagar yzU5eTv51go+dg4JdmgCW6VO033sJGQv/nyEsolhorahN1WAPjKnPY4jOf6MOUbrhfAEwKheffmL/w== X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2017-12-13 00:50, Thomas Wolff wrote: > Am 13.12.2017 um 06:21 schrieb Brian Inglis: >> On 2017-12-04 18:23, Thomas Taylor wrote: >> Your Windows Regional settings and your mintty/Options/Text/Language and >> Character Set should be set to match. >> The profile commands below set Cygwin locale to your Windows Regional settings >> and charset to UTF-8, or Unix locale to your system locale. >> Otherwise your system or mintty is going to be doing conversions on each >> character. > I am not aware that mintty character display and Windows regional settings would > interfere in any way you indicated. > Can you elaborate on this please? Maybe I'm just too optimistic that software will DTRT to ensure that output is faithfully passed thru, or converted for the next layer of software, if it has different settings. I set all of my locales the same so characters should pass thru transparently and I can see output faithfully rendered, given adequate font configurations. What happens when your system, terminal, and shell locales and charsets differ? Either some component/-s has/have to do conversion to provide readable output, which is my expectation given the requirement to specify locales and charsets, or you could end up with garbled output if nothing is doing any conversion. Does one override others to pass thru readable output, does conversion occur, or do you just see junk in some or all cases when locales and charsets differ? I am ignoring here the effect on text content, input and output formatting of selecting languages, territories, and scripts. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple