X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=Am3zR3TMKfhS6Yzj26xGxvP0VhE2 1UlAtsE2rFvBSheRFKRqjBO3RXJ9R7spVoWt15wI2br1xylHofU5/1q98GbeBYdK WcuQShQkr5PN+nvR/k1WRWPbhNJ6Xj7JGxksese+gtaQ9nOZK4OI0oX19qxL0OH+ Q0Wq95lCLiL6oLQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=k45a6BMlFYuJ0H/UdvTX1ByLVR8=; b=VV JDm9RjjvHVhIHGMUME82SwbUDQHYbfhjKZTFML6AHw9LUxn4iHCRLXs2bP4K1uBO AexZ4EIO78H1q/p2lfbeXV5rWntPC7hQ/jbcXR+WhRCBeAQhuo0YbVR5ne4p7MWi HyUv6HLdSmgnjLtolGGohKKt0eEeGhXsBL7RLdKGM= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=15th, We, We=e2, guideline?= X-HELO: etr-usa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: cmp missing from base From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: <572D891C.2040002@towo.net> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:16:12 -0600 Message-Id: <741009F0-E57D-44DA-B728-68BDB4486DDD@etr-usa.com> References: <572C697E DOT 1090408 AT towo DOT net> <29250DCF-60A0-4113-9834-25EA744E8F41 AT etr-usa DOT com> <572D891C DOT 2040002 AT towo DOT net> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u49FGc68024027 On May 7, 2016, at 12:20 AM, Thomas Wolff wrote: > > Am 07.05.2016 um 03:41 schrieb Warren Young: >> On May 6, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Thomas Wolff wrote: >>> after a recent fresh installation of cygwin, I was surprised that `cmp` was missing, which is part of the traditional Unix base commands. >>> I think the diffutils package should be part of the base installation. >> We’ve never really had a hard rule on what is in Base and what isn’t. It’s always been a judgement call. >> >> I wonder if the rule should just be “POSIX”? Over the weekend, I realized that the rule can’t be that simple, because that would drag in GCC. > maybe there can be a guideline, and more a guideline of common practice than of a 15th standard. The problem, of course, is that there is no common practice. I think the closest parallel to the Cygwin Base philosophy is the minimal or base installs of several other *ixes, particularly the BSDs. It is also something like a throwback to the SysV Unixes, prior to about 1992, when you could count on things like X and the C compiler to be separate installs. But even that guideline isn’t especially useful, since often such OSes *do* include the C compiler and all its support tooling. Ultimately, I think Cygwin Base is whatever Corinna and Yaakov say it is. :) -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple