X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=mC5CNpp4fGHHbgy8 wsPG9A2LxPUWUeHj5iwnnxVN7GoyM/cQB9rbi9JWOT60e6CQ4L4KVvg1jR0YkLrZ PxEpRPMWghgNyB9lOI5MYif+8ukoNY9u2jt34Tj15JBesVgOEiq/3V4QSr5uq4Dq phX2B0rlQycCeyC65ZFjE2LpIAc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=PN1Dnw94cYY2VnXH7irvBG RPrAU=; b=dMUbvSvGM0mPmE3TNlK9TGKR4W6OHS97LWFQLRnNuJbZDzwnTfO4o2 Zrjke/ToLeaA8Zl/d6wlhCZGcuSkoi/FjnUdEtaCzix/BLOvW+MWD453nFBNBKD5 jV0cWBYpQHjzXv0b2lRhMw7RWlVnMgpF/utcxTss05G5WuQVzMwSg= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=cowan!, Cowan!, WHAT, worlds X-HELO: mout.gmx.net Subject: Don't descend into a flame war. was: Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <416uDmm4T7200S05 DOT 1460552179 AT web05 DOT cms DOT usa DOT net> <84CCF5B5-9F11-4541-A527-FD0BD3AE5545 AT etr-usa DOT com> <1117668279 DOT 20160414220758 AT yandex DOT ru> <20160414204000 DOT GA7622 AT mercury DOT ccil DOT org> <204284648 DOT 20160415013838 AT yandex DOT ru> <20160414233421 DOT GC29184 AT mercury DOT ccil DOT org> <754938730 DOT 20160415125306 AT yandex DOT ru> <20160415162738 DOT GB17406 AT mercury DOT ccil DOT org> <1798352479 DOT 20160418002743 AT yandex DOT ru> From: Herbert Stocker Message-ID: <57147454.3070705@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:44:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1798352479.20160418002743@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:c7knInBotMw=:1RdejTjCFI+I6X/jSnkmcC eSmmVvILDeyJw7EqJ2XRBZUvZfxZ3jiGPHid5S46dhFnKR72xb5XwBrfqPm3an2MKDa8r2v12 jpn5byBJ1d2txP0sHlPzmRTQChsbLZi85M4oz6Q/8mcBFz4fV1IniWKrQokVICuZfcoUj9EY2 AiEaGFoynQK91sX0cMXlgyRtsLkvj8JmMr7jb6gZ9KTYc6phjY/MH0psUbTA2MMt7n0hsDpt/ 6U2ucFgSxm3jYdbOWz6sJTydADTOySEiYdX9WD562U+s7cjY1uEdmIkYzOu8toqi8+aLnE8pO nBAyyBKcw+Awfda2Bb1LkxG4kZ/UbixJCSF46ziswcB3HezJK57mGW+R9524axF1ykGXfrUDA sTAMVlp5IWptd/ZVRewaPGS4Hg46m0pWjcOMmnuFblSJ14eNgiV5aOTK2l5NfdXNE7l03C/zE pnb+2IQ5Ums57c2pRp7A0zzRdAQww7fIzs8qfoQYNnt7R9mkHH7zC2J8UuLFRSvwMvhQxJj8c BIfE4VaW9LYdVNw6J7a7+cbm5q+PrOlI+20IBkI3wbFsu8Nuxpz8V1ukVG3fjAz4MwWRQWWDQ MC4F0f6XLbe2tS8tl81F3tCdR26kllFL+0D6OA8IWy3Gsn7yuBibNbyWpmN5yVNWBrDjk+ZjY F9hYWYCyOg/x2LpBIdbV4phlekHN1uiF0Bxtv+wM3UPkec2V133Qke47zlshLt4Hl2RF5bZuZ 9syrnuyvGtmYalHCou7rXxiLZTgRmA8UY37j2ZOTT3KiDqhwJky8xyyLT3w5VJr8te9A6VVhA cbfvHmp X-IsSubscribed: yes On 17.04.2016 23:27, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, John Cowan! > >> Andrey Repin scripsit: > >>> Of course, it is efficient. >>> More efficient, than starting a shell each time I need to diff a file. >>> Or 2-3 shells, if you call a wrapper. Which is least efficient, considering >>> retarded CMD quoting rules. > >> I always have 2-3 shells running, > > Having shells running, and having 2-3 shells start between a request and the > result is not quite the same thing, don't you think? > >> more if I am editing a lot of files. > > Having shells running for file editing? Sorry, what year you are living in? Editors like vim and others do have advances that other editors don't have. It's not a question of year, it's a question of preference. And of whether one goes over a high learning curve (like you also did, i know) or a shallow one and stays there. (like some i have to do with daily). > >> But you live in a GUI world and I live in a CLI world. > > WHAT? i for example live in both worlds. GUI for many things, and CLI for those things where the GUI exposes its shortcomings. That's why i say Cygwin makes that OS complete. > >> And no, cmd does not count as a shell. > > And yes, it do counts as a shell. By definition. > Using cmd to argue about cli is a mistake. Much like looking at the big churches and judging about God. Now that's off-topic by far.. Herbert -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple