X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=HUetqdfwzJ2SbfRdNbgKtXf7dD2x bWl8NLKcBJum74wG0cwX+4V9YRmoqCKSJUTMA9xOV4zQDBfPo3JOr81OFFuyF0m3 6qmSF20Ig7Hai9WvVXhwZ4ZTkI0ulYj4ig6XWof5cmk0LZCJ552XZXmBpvZjEKUW aNqAmAMbNdSiRbQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=Vh+N0D5yiC4K3+WPHwZ4vO0sJFE=; b=Ra cAepluFMdrmhzo6BJjc4IBC4jFBAOICjc97vHSpl7Lfu9s9EJvraumOhohpvW8Gy lHdlJ7kG3i1X1NXufwVJwKQDRhTKYlZBWU42+B3zsu4UTPQ8bR2/xgvQ6wwkJKuN Uhq9uK/7vvrLLvfVex1rRpDxccLURVv22+SeYp2z8= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*MI:sk:6103A4A, Hx-languages-length:1339, H*r:envelope-sender, D*yandex.ru X-HELO: etr-usa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10 From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: <1273817198.20160413182530@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:49:54 -0600 Message-Id: References: <70rpgbh81o3fkrdgh8ldh2hmon25ihnr1s AT 4ax DOT com> <570CF112 DOT 6060405 AT gmail DOT com> <20160412134132 DOT GP9870 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <570D4AFB DOT 4000906 AT cs DOT umass DOT edu> <6103A4A6-C242-4D4E-AA1E-7774BFB66D96 AT etr-usa DOT com> <1273817198 DOT 20160413182530 AT yandex DOT ru> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u3EEoJYU014061 On Apr 13, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: > >> On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: >>> >>> It will be interesting to see how they map identities and permissions! > >> They don’t map identities at all, a fact that is clear from this presentation: >> > In other words, this is a useless bullshit? Cygwin didn’t have AD/SAM integration until about a year ago. So, Cygwin was useless until last year, too? Ubuntu for Windows is as useful today as pre-Cygwin 1.7.34 with a nearly empty /etc/passwd file, containing only the user’s POSIX UID to Windows SID mapping. Which is to say, not useless at all. The fact that it has limitations merely means it isn’t going to wipe Cygwin off the map immediately. When/if Microsoft fixes all the limitations w.r.t. Cygwin, Cygwin is in deep yogurt. > No SSHD, no cron, no… nothing? sshd is currently broken because they have no pty layer to speak of. Anything else that depends heavily on ptys is broken for the same reason, such as tmux. As for cron, I see no reason why that wouldn’t work, at least for a single user. If you mean that you don’t get a system-wide cron service, so you can schedule jobs to run as SYSTEM or similar, then yes, I wouldn’t expect that to work any time soon, if ever. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple