X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=rt6DWu3HfQfw4XHqdc4DN+8pZkL2 J1TZZIJNTmnjAL+DT753x/I+hCKh8cNpcSZ6gkyWmo49nxGciiGak3xcPbzeLw// 7E6qPpjiO4ksAhLxRZaRSeVKtrP5pYFpPjV4Ivequ8Fd3LjjRUmjbNieNqnmYCkA NpqujxE34648ca8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=JBbKhvYZ1yU4Eq3BBlIH9R3ub/U=; b=ZT IoQuCK3Q8Q2STgSpykSW8tprqdwX6i6XPA1rgy/3qctaEjQK2nsTYuTCbgcetKAw 0+hx24ahSRti01sFw5VS6YWG8317Nl9VAna/M5MO7m0dEsUIx+XPJEj/olMfTJbM pis8dXA5VSm8CgsJDRjMYpDd41kY2QfvUolgl7+0s= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: Yes, score=6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_99,BAYES_999,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPAM_BODY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=kids, Sign, grandma, H*MI:sk:0JN2rG- X-HELO: etr-usa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Last Version of Cygwin for XP From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:42:05 -0700 Message-Id: References: <56BA9DB2 DOT 3080106 AT cygwin DOT com> <56BB6FD1 DOT 6000208 AT molconn DOT com> <56BB7220 DOT 5010101 AT cygwin DOT com> <56BCCE7D DOT 6040605 AT gmail DOT com> <4D4ECA09-53B3-4A16-89BC-E9C7054A22C7 AT etr-usa DOT com> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u1CMgIPT013614 On Feb 12, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> I hope not. Extended support ended nearly two years ago. > > ...why waste the resources on newer (and more bloated) packages? The same blade cuts both ways. The small and shrinking percentage of Cygwin + XP users aren’t worth much resource spent on the Cygwin side. Coat your XP boxes in amber and keep on using them, if you must, but any updates you still get are pure bonus at this point. > I get very tired of people consistently implying (or > outright saying) that not upgrading XP is some form of stupidity or > insanity. Yes, well, when there are still millions of XP-based ATMs out there, I think I have sufficient justification for reflexive shaming. [1] The Home Depot and Target breaches basically came down to unpatched XP boxes. [2] > Would I trust one of these hosts on the internet at all? Of all the XP machines in the world, what percentage have no reason to be on the Internet in 2016? I suspect there are more cases of low-regard Internet-connected XP boxes than carefully-firewalled cases like yours: - grandma’s email machine - the Steam PC in the kids’ room - the embedded PC inside the Internet-connected kiosk - the machine driving the vinyl cutter at Bill’s Sign Shop… Since these boxes are likely to end up as hosts for a botnet, I’m not willing to say it’s just their own lookout. Their disregard is causing problems for the rest of us. [1] http://goo.gl/9Zf3pw [2] http://goo.gl/EJ5tiY -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple