X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=B8PdMSql3+d9xv+QeEVQV1PStHvK oBJqlPuhYlAGVTT0kHzFGaKOc1FdBEOGC6BOu2XCmUINRjDUMmRyIy9UshhD1Itx qxFSQtgtIdg2Ugxem6nWcwqdvokWtoqC7r24855/xNm+j45ciwAsHy12y1oTqTfK sj4VvZEI+KwXK28= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=LaqSu6UR5t565HR62PkvksdSAZI=; b=Om I9ED/WVaaHRbjIKuHJVNQHshs5uKr7P+0JUEtNMmtBzn90R1/E7cbFZajSPpk6a7 riTPDD2Dna7xvanbon9j+AsCHi+gV3zmpsKtd8owYgRFBaLBWLzQciyIOJlUjUOp +j92mZr1Z/OSYtMEJ3Vlwlllo29xStcylmZWM65oA= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=H*MI:sk:56924AB, one, that=e2, practically?= X-HELO: etr-usa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Windows XP Support From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: <5692EEA8.4000703@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:45:53 -0700 Message-Id: <2602B7D3-FD9E-489E-B5FD-1694469B966F@etr-usa.com> References: <56924AB1 DOT 1070903 AT gmx DOT de> <5692DBF5 DOT 3040100 AT comcast DOT net> <5692EEA8 DOT 4000703 AT gmail DOT com> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u0BHkIRi032394 On Jan 10, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez wrote: > > No software version can live forever Indeed, not even Linux. There’s a thread over on the CentOS mailing list right now started by someone who’s trying to get something working on CentOS 3, which is about three years younger than Windows XP, but which dropped out of support in 2010. The answer is the same: no one’s going to help you, and if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. And CentOS (RHEL, really) is the longest-supported open source Linux OS distro available. SLES matches it, but there is no open source rebuild like CentOS is to RHEL; openSUSE only has a 3- or 4-year support cycle for its Evergreen releases. Theoretically, some group of motivated developers could fork CentOS 3 and continue to maintain it indefinitely, but I haven’t seen the idea suggested on the mailing list. My point is that even when the sources are freely available, it’s practically impossible to get developers to support ancient code. There has to be a motivation, which is the support contract length in the case of the LTS Linuxes. Once that runs out, the software developers are retasked. The same is true over in Redmond. The only difference is that there isn’t an open source version of Windows, so we can only speculate whether a sufficiently strong developer community could form around it to support it past the EOL date. I suspect that’s the real reason Microsoft refuses to open source Windows: they’re worried that such a maintenance effort could form. If there were a community-supported version of Windows XP, they’d have an even harder time getting people to adopt modern versions of Windows. It would effectively fork the Windows platform. Bottom line: it’s long past time to get off XP. The Cygwin developers should not be expected to expend any additional effort to maintain XP compatibility. > Linux Kernel LTS support is 2-3 years, for Debian is 1 year after > release of next stable version, Ubuntu is 5 years and 9 months for STS > and both LinuxMint and Trisquel 5 years as well. RHEL/CentOS and SLES both have 10 year support cycles. > At least Windows XP got 13 years of support and since Windows Vista its > 10 years. XP support was supposed to run for 10 years, too, but got pushed back twice due to customer base foot-dragging, IIRC. Windows 8.1 extended support is scheduled to run for 10 years. If you want to add in 8.0, that comes to 11. Windows 10 is also scheduled for 10 years of extended support. You can’t hold back the tide. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple