X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=dlm9MymmGWZhJxMHnIUfFrWMdga4Yng3BHJN2JKNFwfjy1RCKagya 6FnhCMLmaH1TmgEBFsqywIO/Y6ltSopezTGhI1KS+lSfGqE5vypTGVyuVcRZ/ylp RIAVUv2BfYIpoRHsN5JDEZ8mKJ31ab2RhnuIBLkuFLBb5b+CU+pp6E= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=H1Moe/qNVsGn/vxaS4lXR54YfA8=; b=RiknyNJSrQgZwW0dhnT3agfZZ5jm TNS4KKzteLryVCxnszUWe1OaHbdAoXRBeizbn20wwUhN8Yk3wfTdVFob0+QUu6WU LeZ8gSueCdu3N6eEVVN6Gm85lV4kSC1WFgwJyUSlTxobLBnwmjiD8FyAS5vjq89L FTIWmH+J/O295hE= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse AT dyndns DOT com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+4UdjLdLgo/fS4sWRSNjNN Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:38:46 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: 1.7.20: cygicons-0.dll has gone missing Message-ID: <20130628143846.GA5630@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <6CF2FC1279D0844C9357664DC5A08BA20D913A AT MLBXV06 DOT nih DOT gov> <0D835E9B9CD07F40A48423F80D3B5A7021D8C894 AT USA7109MB022 DOT na DOT xerox DOT net> <51CC3936 DOT 5060302 AT gmail DOT com> <257023591 DOT 20130628141617 AT mtu-net DOT ru> <51CD9C39 DOT 8000907 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51CD9C39.8000907@cwilson.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:22:49AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >On 6/28/2013 6:16 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: >>>>> The cygutils package was recently split into cygutils-extra and >>>>> cygutils-x11. Install cygutils-extra. >>>> >>>> Doesn't this suggest that cygicons-0.dll should be included >>>> in the base cygwin package? >> >>> base does not needs icons, so in IMHO no. >> >> That's a bit flawed line, IMO. >> Default install should put user's system in a consistent working order. >> Missing icons is not something I would call "consistent". > >What part of a default install [1] *requires* icons from cygicon-0.dll? > Now, if you're talking about updating an existing cygwin installation >via setup.exe [with no special package selection], then yeah -- this is >a *known* breakage. But it's better than the previous *known issue* >where a default "Base" install [1] would pull in python and bits of X11. > THAT is what this packaging change was intended to fix, and because we >did so deliberately in order to break requires: dependencies, we >couldn't very well avoid the problem you see by adding those same >requires: dependencies right back. > >Summary: READ the cygwin-announce list. Always. KNOW what you're doing >when you upgrade. AND, if you didn't do that...when you see an error >due to a "routine upgrade"...go back and DO read that list. > >[1] And by "default install" I mean "new installation of cygwin, using >setup.exe, on a virgin system that has never before had cygwin >installed", where NO special package selection is made. E.g. a "Base" >installation. > >And really, missing icons doesn't break a darn thing. It just makes >things look less pretty, temporarily, until you manually install the >correct package. What he said. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple