X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=VhbnGRKxeSZKrCCg K4DhuHcJ6u12npu2Rdpbuy5yUbXQeqXVblP+7o/N2ZlzF47XGnFh8LuEBrG0/FBt ETq9JiZmW1FRrnb8WMnoELohHbpfUr/YLtS/FMmO6fnq80s99yODUHu/Bi4u7fAy TCLdzK9yocMYHT7islgtp62ymWI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=8iIhN/N/DlyByDV+oJMXPr OQelk=; b=tYSiI+awCxMwpLaeW8UpwwTdVnoC3TqncpzS/2c4V8yqOsGx05UDy1 7BO/K2/8phd403XBSOP5OQmkaDaS2xVmdF3S3bIkoYVkjyi3hcFdaYRf8FdmRkHP bG5nUgHo43dFR8OjZpk5NZ1ivp7hl8Zw3K2PVeyRw5gvBuhXZMIj0= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,BOTNET,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Message-id: <51B0E64C.3040602@cygwin.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:43:08 -0400 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-to: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: ASLR breaks cygwin References: <51B0B1F2 DOT 4090402 AT gmail DOT com> <75109671 DOT 20130606204049 AT mtu-net DOT ru> <51B0C178 DOT 1050605 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20130606172711 DOT GE13320 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-reply-to: <20130606172711.GE13320@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 6/6/2013 1:27 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jun 6 11:06, Warren Young wrote: >> On 6/6/2013 10:52, Dan Kegel wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if we could get them to recognize the parent-child >>> relationship somehow, and keep the same address space >>> in the child. >>> >>> Just kidding. Hell would sooner freeze over. >> >> I don't know about that. For a long time, they had a bigger >> conflict of interest with Cygwin due to SFU/SUA/Interix and the >> POSIX subsystem. They announced SUA's doom a couple of years ago[1] >> and the need for a separate native POSIX API is gone[2]. I even >> recall reading on this list that Microsoft now recommends Cygwin, at >> least unofficially. >> >> Perhaps Microsoft now has some incentive to create a native fork(2) >> like call in their OS that Cygwin could use. (Or something close >> enough, like Linux's clone(2).) > > The problem is not the call. Such a call exists, since Vista even > one with very simple usage. The problem is that this call has > been created for SUA, and some Win32 libs as well as the console > subsystem don't work with this call because there never have been > made provisions for a fork call in the Win32 libs. Chances for > a change are rather low. So I should put away my ice-skates and pitchforks? Wait, was that a pun? ;-) -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple