X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse AT dyndns DOT com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18DlnyDbEvw13YJArjo6BPE Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:46:50 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Installation / download issues Message-ID: <20120414184650.GA17287@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20120414170056 DOT GC15801 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:01:57AM -0700, Richard Troy wrote: >...During an exchange on a completely unrelated topic: >[most of another rant snipped] > >As you want a bug report, I think I saved the logs, so maybe that's still >possible, though I was under the impression that they got overwritten on >subsequent tries; I _think_ I may have saved the logs from the first >attempt on this latest cycle last Tuesday night. I'll try and dig into it >tomorrow AM over coffee and if it's still available, I'll log a bug. As >I'm not a Cygwin committer, is submitting here, on-list, sufficient, or >where do you want me to enter it officially? "Problem reports" url cited >below? Obviously you are not a Cygwin committer. I'd hope that someone with commit privileges would be taking a proactive role in fixing bugs rather than ranting about them. If you are a programmer, however, then patches are always welcome. For setup.exe, those patches would go to the cygwin-apps mailing list. Otherwise, yes, of course, I'd want anyone reporting a problem to use the guidelines at http://cygwin.com/problems.html . That's the whole point of having a link at the bottom of every message. You might also pay particular attention to the link near the beginning of that page which talks about asking smart questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Specifically: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#symptoms http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#courtesy setup.exe has seen a lot of development in the last year so, although there are no guarantees that anything will be fixed, it's possible that someone might want to look into any issue that you report. I can guarantee that there won't be any fixes whatsoever coming if the best you can do is rant about past issues, claim that other people have problems too, and protest your loyalty to the project. Those are all irrelevant to getting a problem fixed. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple