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Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 08:59:11 -0400
Subject: RE: Cygwin visual brand
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Steven Collins sent the following at Monday, May 10, 2010 4:19 PM
>On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 13:36, Klaus Grue <> wrote:
>> In conclusion, I suggest a new term is invented such as the  Cygwin
>> Package Manager (CPM) or something like that. Then one could simply
>> write  Cygwin Package Manager under the Cygwin icon and then explain
>> in the text that:
>>  The Cygwin Package Manager (cpm.exe) can install Cygwin and manage
>> Cygwin packages. Among other, it can install, uninstall, upgrade, and
>> downgrade individual packages. It can also install and upgrade the
>> entire Cygwin system and keep the system up to date.
>> By the way, it would by nice if CPM could also uninstall Cygwin. It
>> sends the message that you are confident in your system if you make
>> it easy for users to uninstall it. And it smells suspicious to
>> provide software without an uninstaller.
>
>I would tend to agree with Klaus on this point. The "setup.exe"
>name is too generic. If I'm examining my downloads directory with a
>non-graphical tool (let's say something like "ls" :-) ) then it is not
>obvious the setup.exe file is associated ith Cygwin. I'm not a fan of
>"cpm.exe" for two reasons.
>
>1) CPM already has a history as an operating system so using that name
>would have the potential for confusing the users as well as opening the
>project to possible trademark/copyright infringement issues.
>
>2) When I'm doing an "ls" of the directory containing "cpm.exe" it is
>only slightly more obvious than "setup.exe" what the application is.
>
>With modern file systems, command line completion, and GUI file managers
>there is little reason to shorten the name down to its initials.
>"CygwinPackageManager.exe" communicates clearly what the program is
>without any further need of explanation.

I agree that setup is to generic.  Additionally, sometimes the security
settings/antivirus might not allow one to either download or run
something called setup.  Personally, I like <cygsetup.exe>.  See
<http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-03/msg00117.html>.

And although I've never used a Linux package manager, my impression from
comments on this list is that setup really doesn't have all the functions
that many people would expect in a package manager like rpm or apt.

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.


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