X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SARE_MSGID_LONG40,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090615151420.GT5039@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20090512173153 DOT GY21324 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <200905201652 DOT n4KGqYGm000509 AT mail DOT bln1 DOT bf DOT nsn-intra DOT net> <200906051625 DOT n55GP6t3028411 AT mail DOT bln1 DOT bf DOT nsn-intra DOT net> <3f0ad08d0906060242t275a78e7tb9913bf78d1c5e83 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <200906121538 DOT n5CFcSld014997 AT mail DOT bln1 DOT bf DOT nsn-intra DOT net> <3f0ad08d0906140604y49c470eeu68c6c307ec1cd073 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <3f0ad08d0906140618w53c82556ye709c70efc1c65e0 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <20090615084443 DOT GO5039 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <3f0ad08d0906150735g27576d41t7207970465e5d884 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <20090615151420 DOT GT5039 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:20:54 +0900 Message-ID: <3f0ad08d0906150820y3c3f347dr18eb13132747dc90@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add "@cjknarrow" modifier (was Re: [Fwd: [1.7] wcwidth failing configure tests]) From: IWAMURO Motonori To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, newlib AT sourceware DOT org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com OK. I withdraw my proposal. 2009/6/16 Corinna Vinschen : > On Jun 15 23:35, IWAMURO Motonori wrote: >> 2009/6/15 Corinna Vinschen: >> > If everybody agrees to this suggestion, here's the patch. >> >> Is the name of modifier prefix "cjk-" good? It influences not CJK >> characters but a part of symbols and European characters. >> Please refer to Andy's opinion: >> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-06/msg00240.html >> >> It personally proposes "ambinarrow" because the switch of Vim is "ambiwi= dth". > > I think "cjk" in the name is the right choice. =A0There are no ambiguous > characters in western languages (well, probably there are, but the > ambiguity is not on the level of character widths). =A0This is a problem > which only has a meaning in these so called CJK languages. =A0It makes > sense to me to use this in the modifier name. > >> And, I don't think that it is symmetrical. How about the following >> patch? (I have not changed the name of modifier prefix) > > I'm not convinced that we need symmetry. =A0It looks like a nice idea for > Cygwin or newlib, given that the setlocale language string is checked > and picked to pieces hardcoded in the loadlocale function. > > However, besides of being unnecessary, other systems like Linux or BSD > use the language string as directory name relative to the > /usr/share/locale directory. =A0If this gets ever used on non-Cygwin > systems, the symmetry (which has no precedent in the locale arena) would > require these systems to create yet another subdirectory or symlink for > the same purpose. =A0Even worse, if you propose that @cjkwide is a valid > modifier for *any* language, you would make the whole mechanism on > non-newlib based systems more complicated for no apparent reason. > > > Corinna > > -- > Corinna Vinschen =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Please, send mails re= garding Cygwin to > Cygwin Project Co-Leader =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > Red Hat > --=20 IWAMURO Motnori -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/