X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4A227DE8.7030800@cornell.edu> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:54:00 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: emacs -nw keypad, tpu-edt.el, and C-h References: <4A1C9952 DOT 8040100 AT cornell DOT edu> <838wkhsm5e DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> <4A1E7C50 DOT 8020505 AT cornell DOT edu> <416096c60905280702m6e4cb748ic305be3592d81c70 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <83ws8042o2 DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> <4A1FD2B7 DOT 90506 AT cornell DOT edu> <416096c60905290538t1989ba8cq4987a0197c2b61cd AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <416096c60905291459y37ac57a2le64d451d8c5e640a AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <20090530055318 DOT GA4569 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <4A21B676 DOT 7080001 AT cornell DOT edu> <416096c60905310213u793baa7v4121692e339a8872 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> In-Reply-To: <416096c60905310213u793baa7v4121692e339a8872@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 5/31/2009 5:13 AM, Andy Koppe wrote: > 2009/5/30 Matt Wozniski: >> On Debian, at least, the console sends ^H for Ctrl+Backspace and ^? >> for Backspace; that is a pretty common convention among terminal >> emulators that I've used. I vote against the ^_ suggestion; I for one >> would be genuinely surprised by that. > > Fair enough, but once you're over the surprise you might actually find > it useful to tell Ctrl+Backspace from Ctrl+H. Also, having > Ctrl+Backspace bring up the help in emacs is rather surprising too. As I long-time emacs user, I have to say that I have never been tempted to type Ctrl-Backspace in emacs. But, as a result of this discussion, I just tried it in three different settings and got three different behaviors. (The three settings were: emacs under X, emacs in a Cygwin console with the latest snapshot installed, and emacs in mintty with the "Backspace sends ^?" option.) The third one was actually the most surprising to me, because ^_ is the "undo" command in emacs. In view of this chaos, I think cgf did the right thing in deciding to leave Ctrl-Backspace alone. If a linux standard ever emerges, I think cygwin should follow it. But, from what people have said, it sounds like that hasn't happened yet. Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/