X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:10:59 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-45 Message-ID: <20090402171059.GE12738@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20090331111757 DOT GA22043 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <200904021430 DOT n32EUuKv024760 AT mail DOT bln1 DOT bf DOT nsn-intra DOT net> <20090402145915 DOT GA18756 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090402145915.GA18756@calimero.vinschen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-02-20) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Apr 2 16:59, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 2 16:30, Thomas Wolff wrote: > > > removed in favor of using $LANG, $LC_ALL, or $LC_CTYPE. > > > > > [...] > > Now with 1.7.0-45, after remote login, the encoding is always just > > ISO-8859-1, while of course, if I have a UTF-8 terminal, I want to take > > this over to the remote system. Maybe it's some interworking problem > > with the new cygwin dll and the old rlogin.exe? > > Until 1.7.0-44, even something like the following worked: > > Inside a default cygwin console (or a codepage:oem) console, you could type > > CYGWIN=codepage:utf8 rlogin ... > > and get a UTF-8 remote terminal environment. Now, no attempt to > > establish that seems to work anymore. > > > > I would appreciate if this can be resolved, > > Baaeh. That's one aspect I didn't realize when I made this change. > Does that really mean we have to keep codepage:foo just for the sake > of the Windows console window? Does anybody have any other idea? These are the choices we have, afaics: 1. Use a "CYGWIN=codepage:foo" look-alike which only sets the console charset. Pro: Console codepage is easily determinable. Con: Yet another environment setting which can go wrong. 2. Use the environment variable setting of LC_ALL/LC_CTYPE/LANG at the moment the console is opened the first time and then never change this setting again until the console is closed again. Pro: Only one environment variable has to be set for the internationalization (which was the intent of the original patch). Con: The variable must be set before starting a Cygwin console. (But that's better the case anyway, as explained in http://cygwin.com/1.7/cygwin-ug-net/setup-locale.html#setup-locale-problems) 3. Change rlogin to call setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); at the start of main. Pro: Cygwin doesn't have to be changed. Con: Inetutils has to be changed. But the setlocale call would be a good idea anyway, probably. Con: OpenSSH has the same problem. Con: The problem persists for all applications which don't set the locale. OTOH, this only affects remote connection apps. Solution 3 seems not feasible. I'm leaning towards solution 2. Does anybody know a reason why we should prefer solution 1? Does anybody have another solution? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/