X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Richard Ivarson Subject: Re: 1.7 - noacl for cygdrive Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:54:42 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <002201c94993$3a4a2e50$aede8af0$@com> <20081118160333 DOT GB12546 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <20081120101325 DOT GN9927 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <20081120101325.GN9927@calimero.vinschen.de> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Corinna Vinschen wrote: [..] >> Yes, Rob meant for us RSYNC users: set CYGWIN=NONTSEC >> ... because NTSEC (the default) causes much trouble with the NT permissions >> on RSYNC'ed files. A web search shows that _many_ people run into these >> problems. So maybe for RSYNC the default NTSEC isn't a good idea. I'm on >> edge how Cygwin 1.7 solves or rather handles this problem. > > For rsync ntsec is a good idea, imho. Your scenario isn't my scenario. > I *want* permissions which reflect POSIX permissions closely. I don't > care for Windows default permissions. Lately we have lots of people > claiming that they use Cygwin tools in a native Windows environment and > how being POSIXy is in the way of what they are doing. Keep in mind > that the whole idea of Cygwin is to provide a POSIXy environment and the > default should be as close to POSIX as possible. These "lots of people" who use Cygwin in Windows-only environments probably think, like I did, that Cygwin "just" brings a bunch of highly usefuly Unix like command line tools straight to the comfortable Windows NT/2000/XP enviroment. So we Windows coddled users are - or at least I was - under a slightly wrong impression. > Using Cygwin in a > non-POSIXy situation is the border case, not the norm. I didn't know this motto. I've to confess that I first would have to look up the exact meaning of POSIX. :-) Still Cygwin's very useful for us Windows-only environment people. Please bear with us "luxury users" in Windows-only environments. Maybe you understand better the problems we experience with our approach to a complex and useful software which Cygwin is. > So adapt your settings, but don't expect that it's the default. Well, I'm happy it is possible to adapt the setting at all. -Richard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/