X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: References: <48D3B01F DOT 5080200 AT oracle DOT com> <9721D18815A74E3790E86A5BC19A461A AT collinsdirect DOT com> <48D74687 DOT 80002 AT oracle DOT com> <48D83EF8 DOT 5040401 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <29E315C686404A6D8696F355E283DD56 AT collinsdirect DOT com> <48D8F8AC DOT F1774B58 AT dessent DOT net> Subject: RE: [OT] polite response to polite response - Brian... Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:45:54 -0400 Message-ID: <124BDC78EB534CE084916FC3E6C2A96B@collinsdirect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <48D8F8AC.F1774B58@dessent.net> From: Barry Smith at SourceLink X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > That doesn't mean that 'run' was at fault. Yet it could have been at fault, or the cygwin memory allocation could be at fault, or Windoze, or the tool that you're RUN-ing. If the tool runs in Windows correctly, then the Windows "Command Prompt" success tends to point back to CygWIN or "Run.exe", unfortunately. *grin* Yes, I understand all of the components that might have failed. If _I_ had received the BSOD, I would have checked Windoze' stability before pointing the finger at CygWIN and "RUN". I would have probably tinkerred with the RAM allocated to CygWIN, and other things (like the size of the datafile that I was trying to process) and MANY other things before posting anything to any CygWIN list. As a programmer, my first assumption is that I messed up, not that the compiler is broken or Windoze is broken (like there has ever been a stable version of Windoze). Unfortunately, I was refering to a cygwin-xfree post (see response to Chris for references and age of post) that someone else wrote, that was corroborated by the Web in general, documenting CygWIN and Vista problems. I am STILL trying to help the user who can't unzip their file. *smile* Barry Smith -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com [mailto:cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com] On Behalf Of Brian Dessent Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:10 AM To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [OT] polite response to rather rude reponse... Barry Smith at SourceLink wrote: > > Stop spreading FUD. There is no way a userland app like "run.exe" > > can > "cause" > > a blue screen. Only something running in kernel space -- like > > windows core > code, > > or certain device drivers -- can ever do that. > > Then I guess you don't read the cygwin archives, because that's where > I read the entire thread while I was researching RUN/START execution > under cygwin. That doesn't mean that 'run' was at fault. If a user-mode program results in a BSOD that means it exercised a bug in a kernel-mode driver, such as a faulty virus scanner or other "security" type crapware. There is simply no way that a user-mode program can cause a BSOD on its own. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/