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From: Ben <ben AT pacificu DOT edu>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: md5sum using Cygwin in Windows
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Also: thanks for the answer. It actually doesn't really matter, and
maybe it is unnecessary for Cygwin to bother catering towards people
without UNIX experience at all. They probably should be avoiding it
until after they've had some experience with Linux.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Ben <ben AT pacificu DOT edu> wrote:
> "The project is geared towards people who understand a UNIX(tm)
> environment.  If that isn't you, then it's hard to see why you're
> dabbling with Ubuntu."
>
> If I don't understand UNIX, then it's hard to see why I'm dabbling
> with Ubuntu? Is that a mistype? Did you mean to say that it's easy to
> see why I'm dabbling with Ubuntu, as it is generally thought to be a
> newbie-friendly distro? Is there a more approachable way to understand
> UNIX?
>
> It's no wonder that Linux has roughly 1% desktop market share with
> that sort of attitude. Unfortunately, Ubuntu doesn't even display
> right on my laptop, so it'll be a while yet before I do understand
> Linux.
>
> - B
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Christopher Faylor
> <cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 02:42:49PM -0700, Ben wrote:
>>>Removed my HTML to send this off...
>>
>> It is not important for anyone to know this.
>>
>>>The Ubuntu help says that if you download Cygwin (link:
>>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM), you can follow the
>>>Linux directions. I'm using the Cygwin shell and it is not working. I
>>>downloaded the file to C. I type:
>>>
>>>cd C:\
>>>
>>>So far, so good. The (zippied) file ubutuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso is
>>>sitting in C:\. So I type:
>>>
>>>md5sum ubutuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
>>>
>>>"No such file or directory."
>>>
>>>Ah well. Cygwin does not seem to be a very newbie-friendly
>>>application. "Help cd" offers one a starkly technical little
>>>paragraph. Incidentally, how does one even go to the Desktop directory
>>>(which lies at C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Desktop for me) with
>>>Cygwin? Whenever you put in a space, Cygwin seems to reject it.
>>
>> Hmm.  Just got a similar question on irc a while ago.
>>
>> Cygwin doesn't use : or \.  Use:
>>
>> cd "/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Ben/Desktop"
>>
>> And, btw, your "newbie-friendly" comment shows that you apparently have
>> no idea what Cygwin is and possibly have no idea what Linux is all
>> about.  The project is geared towards people who understand a UNIX(tm)
>> environment.  If that isn't you, then it's hard to see why you're
>> dabbling with Ubuntu.
>>
>> cgf
>>
>>
>

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