Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <41795440.50102@x-ray.at> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:41:04 +0200 From: Reini Urban User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.8a3) Gecko/20040817 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Dave Korn schrieb: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Reini Urban >>Sent: 22 October 2004 17:44 > > >>Dave Korn schrieb: >> >>>Found: .\rateless-tunnel.exe >>>rateless-tunnel.exe >>> C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll >>> C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.DLL >>> C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll >>> C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.dll >>> C:\WINDOWS\System32\RPCRT4.dll >>>dk AT mace /win/c/downloads/rateless> >>> >>> LOL. They owe me their source code. >> >>Or remove the cygwin build. That's the option they'll probably choose. > > > They can remove it from their website if they like, but it's too late. As long > as I am in posession of a binary of a GPL'd program, I have a non-negotiable right > to a copy of the very same sources from which the binary I have was compiled. > There are no if's or but's. > > Of course, I Am Not A Lawyer, So Everything I Have Said Can Be Safely Ignored. I'm not sure if this will hold on court. I also wrote: >>Question is how to enforce the current state of affairs. I know that not many court decisions have been made on those GPL enforcement issues. And it will depend on the judge if the term "distribution" will be interpreted short-term (bad for rateless) or longer-term. rateless will probably just say: "We didn't know that. No offsense intended, no harm done. We removed it immediately. It's not distributed anymore." And maybe they dare to deny any GPL lawyer claim for this short-term offense and go to court with this minor issue, not giving out the sources. But I want to see that. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/