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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:45:17 -0500
From: Scott Copus <Scott DOT Copus AT wku DOT edu>
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Subject: Re: Licensing for academic computer labs at a university (and setup.exe
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Bill C. Riemers wrote:

>Actually, if the are university computers, then only university needs to
>have access to the source.  The GPL only requires that if you are distribute
>the binaries, that you also distribute the source.  It says nothing about
>providing source for your own computers.  That is true for both an
>individual and an institution.  However, if students are allowed to copy the
>Cygwin distribution off the computers then they need to have access to the
>source.  A single network shared directory would be sufficient for normal
>sized computer lab, since few of the students would want to download a more
>than one or two source packages.
>

Are you saying that it's possible to put a "readme" notice somewhere on 
the workstation that tells students if they want the source code to any 
or all Cygwin packages, just "go see this person" or "go to this URL 
(internal to the university of course)" or something equivalent?

"...copying the Cygwin distribution off the computers..."
I'm not sure what is implied by "distribution" in this case.  Is the 
source required by virtue of keeping the _binary installer_ on the 
machine?  Or... if a student can copy any single Cygwin binary tool 
(such as grep.exe), I must provide the source (in some way) for that tool?

=====

BTW, I have a couple suggestions for the people working on the Cygwin 
installer--setup.exe:

First, can the window where you select packages be changed so that you 
can resize or maximize it?  I'm going scrollbar-crazy trying looking at 
all the package descriptions from this little window.  ;)

Second, can you change the cursor to the "busy" cursor when setup is 
really busy?  For example, when I click on Default next to the Devel 
category to change it to Install (all packages), the CPU resources go to 
100% while setup is busy reconfiguring the install package list.  At 
first, I didn't know what was going on and would terminate setup because 
I thought it had frozen up.  ;)

=====

Oh.  Can MySQL run emulated under Cygwin?  I might like to provide this 
contained all inside of Cygwin--especially for CS students.  If I were 
to install MySQL as a regular Windows application, does anyone have any 
recommendations on starting/stopping/configuring the MySQL server... 
escpecially when students login as Limited user accounts?  I believe as 
long as students have full access to the necessary MySQL database/table 
directories and config files, they shouldn't have any problems?

thanks again.

-- 
Scott Copus
Student Technology
Laboratory Systems Specialist
Western Kentucky University
http://stech.wku.edu
Scott DOT Copus AT wku DOT edu


>BTW.  A base CYGWIN distribution is only about 15 MB's.  Source is another
>18 MB's.  So the whole thing can fit on one of the mini-CDROM disks with a
>huge amount of space to spare.  If you pick and choose which packages you
>want, you can easily fit all the binaries and source on a single cd.
>If you want a full distribution, then use one CDROM for source and one for
>binaries.
>
>                        Bill
>  
>


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