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From: "BB" <canofspam AT att DOT net>
Subject: Re: event logging -- cron
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:26:41 -0500
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Igor,

I don't think the .rc can reference only the data section of the .o file.
In order to define a resource of type 11 as event viewer requires, a user
defined resource needs to be defined.  It only allows an entire file to be
specified or data defined in the .rc

What if the .c file includes a main() that writes msg_tlb to stdout.  The
Makefile could build the .exe and then execute it to create a .bin. The .rc
would include the .bin as it would the output of mc.exe.  Example is
attached.

BB

"Igor Pechtchanski" <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> wrote in message
news:Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0304091637490 DOT 8179-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu...
> BB,
>
> The reason I'm opposed to the use of mc.exe is that one should be able to
> re-build Cygwin using Cygwin tools only, and introducing a dependence on a
> Microsoft tool will go contrary to that goal.
>
> As for using a .rc file to define a struct, why not simply create a .c
> with an exported variable?  I may be missing something here, but the
> simpler the code, the easier it'll be to build and understand.  I'm
> guessing the .bin file you provided earlier is the same as the data
> section of a similar .o file would be, correct?  Something like the
> following:
> ----------CUT----------
> #include <windows.h>
> struct {
> MESSAGE_RESOURCE_DATA data;
> /* Note: _ENTRY should be the same as MESSAGE_RESOURCE_ENTRY */
> /* in winnt.h except for the Text size */
> struct _ENTRY {
> WORD Length;
> WORD Flags;
> BYTE Text[8];
> } entry;
> } msg_tbl =
> {
>   {1, {0, 0, sizeof(MESSAGE_RESOURCE_DATA)}},
>   {sizeof(struct _ENTRY), 0, "%1\r\n\0\0\0\0"}
> };
> ----------CUT----------
> Of course, there's then a need for the .rc file to refer to the .o, but
> I'm sure it could be done...
>
> There have been various aborted attempts at this in the past.  I wonder if
> this time we would be able to finally beat this into an acceptable shape
> and get it into Cygwin...
> Igor
>
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, BB wrote:
>
> > Igor,
> >
> > I don't think mc.exe can output the .bin file as human readable data in
the
> > rc file.  Even if it could, the data contains offsets so it might be
> > difficult to edit manally.  I have a good handle on the format of the
data,
> > so if I knew exactly what subset of the .mc file needed to be supported,
I
> > could write something that would generate a  human readable .rc file
based
> > on an input file.  Duplicating the functionality of mc wouldn't be too
> > difficult, but I don't think I would want to do that.   If the Cygwins
> > syslog() implementation will not change, the attached rc file should be
> > sufficient.
> >
> > Attached is an updated tar file with a human readable .rc file. It
contains
> > the 1 message required to support messages as currently generated by
> > syslog().
> >
> > BB
> >
> >
> > "Igor Pechtchanski" <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0304091456130 DOT 8179-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu...
> > > BB,
> > >
> > > Thanks for providing this example.  Is there a way to instruct "mc" to
> > > produce a human-readable syslogmsg.rc instead of the .bin file and the
> > > wrapper .rc file?  If so, could you please provide an example of such
> > > a .rc file?  It would then be possible to edit the .rc file by hand,
> > > and there would be no need for having "mc" installed.
> > > Igor
> > > P.S. FYI, "mc" is also the name of the Midnight Commander binary, so
you
> > > might wish to provide a full path to "mc" in your makefile and have
people
> > > change that...
> > > P.P.S. I know it's a minor nit, but it would probably be a good idea
to
> > > use "Makefile" instead of "makefile" - IMO, more aesthetically
pleasing.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, it was written:
> > >
> > > > I tackled this one a while back...
> > > >
> > > > Attached is a tar file syslogmsg.tar containing a message dll and
> > > > the files needed to create it.  It defines 1 message with id 0.
> > > > The message has 1 substitution string, so the strings passed to
> > > > ReportEvent by syslog() are output as is.  This message dll handles
> > > > the messages currently output by cygwin.
> > > >
> > > > ****
> > > > To quickly use the dll, copy the dll to c:\cygwin and apply the .reg
> > > > file. Or delete the dll and res file and rebuild it.  The .reg file
> > > > only has a few entries in it for inetd, init, cron and login.  Add
> > > > more entries for other programs. You need the microsoft message
> > > > compiler mc.exe to create syslogmsg.rc and MSG0000.bin, so don't
> > > > delete them if you don't have it.
> > > > ****
> > > >
> > > > There needs to be a registry entry for every program that calls
> > > > syslog (init, inetd, etc.) because the program name is used as the
> > > > event source. There is a .reg file with example entries.  The reg
> > > > file assumes the file syslogmsg.dll is in c:\cygwin
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps a better solution would be to have the message souce always
> > > > be "Cygwin" and the category specific to the application.  I have
> > > > added two categories to the file syslogmsg.mc to show how this is
> > > > done.  The call to ReportEvent would then need to specify the
> > > > correct id for the category string.  So using the syslogmsg.mc file
> > > > in the tar file, for inetd, category 0x1000 would need to be
> > > > specified.  The problem is that syslog doesn't have way to know the
> > > > correct category.  Using categories would require only one message
> > > > dll registry entry for Cygwin instead of one for every program
> > > > calling syslog.
> > > >
> > > > It really depends how important seeing the program name in the
> > > > 'source' column is.  The messages themselves contain the program
> > > > name, so maybe seeing Source=Cygwin Category=None wouldnt be a
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > BB
> > > >
> > > > "Igor Pechtchanski" <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0304081911380 DOT 21921-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu...
> > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > For all those interested: <http://cygwin.com/contrib.html>
> > > > > > > contains complete instructions on how to submit patches. To
> > > > > > > summarize: a) use "diff -up"; b) include a ChangeLog; c) use
> > > > > > > the <cygwin-patches AT cygwin DOT com> list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for your specific suggestion, Andrew, you'll also need to
> > > > > > > provide the resource with the specific code, so that event
> > > > > > > viewer is able to decipher it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reference you provided to MS's site didn't exactly describe
> > > > > > what a "resource" is, how you define/create it and how you use
> > > > > > it. I believe the parameter we are talking about is dwEventID
> > > > > > which MS defines as:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dwEventID
> > > > > >     [in] Event identifier. The event identifier specifies the
> > > > > > entry in the message file associated with the event source.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no description of the format of message file. Indeed
> > > > > > the example code at
> > > > > >
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/debug/base/
reportevent.asp
> > > > > > shows a simple example were the only defintion of dwEventID is a
> > > > > > #define. If you note carefully I even used the same DWORD value
> > > > > > as the example there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Searching around MS's site does not seem to describe how one
> > > > > > goes about making such resources except in apparently an MS
> > > > > > Visual C++ style with some sort of .mc file. As such this
> > > > > > becomes out of my league as to how to map this MS concept of
> > > > > > resource compiler/resources and inhertient dependency on MS
> > > > > > tools with Cygwin's environment (probably exactly why this
> > > > > > wasn't done in the first place).
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, the binutils package contains the "windres" utility that lets
you
> > > > > compile resource files.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the example, follow the link to RegisterEventSource, and
> > > > > from there to EventSources for information on how to provide the
> > > > > necessary resources.
> > > > > Igor
> > > >
> > > > [attached syslogmsg.tar snipped]
>
> --
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>
> Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty.
>   -- Leto II
>
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