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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 13:49:11 -0400
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Cc: "John R. McPherson" <jrm21 AT cs DOT waikato DOT ac DOT nz>,
   Corinna Vinschen <vinschen AT redhat DOT com>
Subject: Re: standalone cygwin programs that use "/tmp" don't work
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Any news here?

cgf

On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 12:47:50PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 07:44:10PM +1200, John R. McPherson wrote:
>>I replied to this to Corinna, but as I got an error message from the
>>list server I had no idea who got it or not.  So I've forwarded the
>>bounced message - see below.
>
>Corinna's original message had set the Reply-To to the cygwin mailing
>list.  My message didn't do that but you replied to the list anyway.
>Hmm.
>
>>> If you are distributing GPLed binaries like the cygwin DLL, tar, wget,
>>> etc.  you need to also make the source code available.  It doesn't
>>> matter that the source code is available elsewhere on the web.
>>
>>We have the source code to wget, pdftohtml, etc available for download
>>as part of the "source code" download link that is on the website
>>I referenced. Some of these packages have been very slightly modified (mostly
>>Makefiles). As I said, our project is all GPL and GPL-compatible
>>code.
>
>Ok.  You're providing some sources but not all.  That's a little
>mystifying to me.  I don't know why you chose to provide sources for
>wget, pdftohtml, etc.  but not for the cygwin DLL, tar, gzip, bzip2, or
>unzip.
>
>>We use the cygwin dll as downloaded from a cygwin mirror. So you want
>>us to mirror the whole cygwin source code as well, in New Zealand,
>>where we have to pay data charges for international traffic in both
>>directions? The GPL says that if someone we give binaries
>>to asks us for the source code, we are obliged to do so. I don't
>>see how we're not complying...
>
>How you are not complying is that you are apparently not providing the
>source code for the DLL and other random binaries.  I'm not sure how
>this was unclear from my original message.  Are you saying that you have
>the source code available for such things as the cygwin dll and tar and
>that if someone asks you'll provide it?  If so, I think you probably
>should make that clear on your web site.
>
>I'm only asking that you make available the cygwin DLL sources and any
>other GPLed sources that you are using.  The cygwin sources are 3878779
>bytes.  The tar sources are 967054 bytes.  The other packages (with the
>possible exception of perl) are not that large either.
>
>Let me restate it:  You can't rely on the fact that the source code
>is "freely available".  As I mentioned, that won't be the case for long
>with cygwin 1.3.10.
>
>My suggestion would be to just make the source code available and
>include a line that says "Please don't use this.  It is just here for
>GPL compliance." or something like that.

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