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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:28:57 +0200
From: Thomas Baker <thomas DOT baker AT bi DOT fhg DOT de>
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: procmail output file format.
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In-Reply-To: <3D05034C.B1B0B046@mitre.org>; from jhouse@mitre.org on Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:51:40PM -0400

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:51:40PM -0400, Jason House wrote:
> I did not know of #1, although I would have been fairly happy with that
> solution.  (I currently do both #2 and #3 to be safe)
> 
> I originally began with setting the HOME variable (like PATH) in order
> to make other unix ports (ie. emacs, ucd-snmp, etc...) work.
> 
> Just doing #2 worked fine for me.  My /home/Administrator was empty
> anyway.  I didn't hit into any trouble, but I did #3 (also) in order to
> "do it right".
> 
> I guess it would be nice if setting HOME had the desired effect on
> procmail... but I don't think modifying the source is the right way to
> do it.  Maybe cygwin should warn about inconsistencies between
> /etc/passwd and HOME (which apparently overrides /etc/passwd).  I looked
> in /etc/profile and it doesn't seem to make any distinction there
> between where HOME comes from.  I don't know where else to look... 
> 
> Hopefully my comments are useful :)

Yes this is very useful.  I wish I knew what the point of this Administrator
account is.  On my Cygwin installation, there are only three files under the
entire /home directory: 

	Administrator/dead.letter
	Administrator/mail/saved-messages
	Administrator/mail/sent-mail

The "dead.letter" file accumulates just the _bodies_ of
(presumably) email messages interrupted during composing. 
The latter two files are initialized with "DON'T DELETE
THESE HEADERS -- FOLDER-INTERNAL DATA".  It all seems very
harmless -- nothing "root-like" about it.


> 
> Thomas Baker wrote:
> > 
> > I am finding exactly what Jason found -- when I add a "-f"
> > argument to /usr/bin/procmail (under Cygwin), everything fails
> > because it suddenly wants to access /home/Administrator.
> > This reminds me of another little quirk that has been
> > bothering me: about one time in ten, when I "reply" in Mutt
> > -- and I haven't been able to tell under which particular
> > circumstances -- the message comes up with my name expanded
> > to "Administrator\\MyMachine" (or something like that) and
> > I have to replace this manually with "Thomas Baker".
> > 
> > Anyway, several solutions were suggested:
> > 
> > 1) A simple .procmailrc at /home/Administrator that says:
> >         INCLUDERC=[pathname];
> > 
> > 2) Removing /home/Administrator and making it a "simulink"
> >    (a "symbolic link"?) to a home directory;
> > 
> > 3) Change /home/Administrator to something else in /etc/passwd.
> > 
> > Jason had good experience with #2 (still, two weeks later?),
> > but messing with Cygwin's /home/Administrator makes me nervous
> > about unforeseen dire consequences.  What is the role of the
> > (presumably WIN2000) Administrator under Cygwin?  Maybe it's
> > just "symbolic"?  Has anyone tried solutions #1 and #3?
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 04:40:24PM -0400, Jason House wrote:
> > > Nice solution :) I like it.
> > >
> > > Removing /home/Administrator and making it a simulink to my desired home
> > > works perfectly.  It is also a very easy thing to recreate in the event
> > > of a full restore...  I also allows me to remove my hacks to avoid using
> > > $HOME.
> > >
> > > Now I get to hunt down a good .muttrc file :)
> > >
> > > Heribert Dahms wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jason(s),
> > > >
> > > > did you try a symlink?
> > > > You might even store a script to recreate that in your backuped area 8-)
> > > >
> > > > Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms AT icon-scm DOT com)
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason House [SMTP:jhouse AT mitre DOT org]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 22:21
> > > > > To:   Jason Tishler
> > > > > Cc:   cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> > > > > Subject:      Re: procmail output file format.
> > > > >
> > > >         [Heribert]  [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > Something like having /home/Administrator/.procmailrc simply say "use
> > > > > /Docume~1/jhouse/MyDocu~1/UnixHome/.procmailrc" would be better since it
> > > > > guarantees that it won't get deleted after it grows in complexity.
> > > > >
> > > >         [Heribert]  [snip]
> > >
> > >
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