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From: John Wiersba <John DOT Wiersba AT medstat DOT com>
To: "'Thomas DOT Wolff AT icn DOT siemens DOT de'" <Thomas DOT Wolff AT icn DOT siemens DOT de>,
        cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
Subject: RE: 3 bugs
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:53:09 -0400
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Now, you've done it.  It's like a virus!  I tried testing your bug and now
*I* have a file called b. which I can't get rid of.  Explorer compains:
Cannot delete b:  Cannot find the specified file.

-- John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas DOT Wolff AT icn DOT siemens DOT de [mailto:Thomas DOT Wolff AT icn DOT siemens DOT de]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:15 AM
> To: cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
> Subject: Re: 3 bugs
> 
> 
> On my bug report
> > My program could create a file "xy." (with a final dot) in 
> the cygwin 
> > environment using a link() call, but I could not manage by 
> any means 
> > to use, remove, or rename that file afterwards.
> there were several replies.
> 
> : I encounter a similar problem.  Apparently, files with a 
> trailing "." are
> : mapped to files without any extension.
> : 
> : $ touch ab.
> : $ ls
> : ab
> : $ rm ab.
> : $ ls
> : $ 
> That's well-known DOS-like behaviour. Not the bug I 
> described. See that 
> the file created was named "ab" without a dot.
> 
> The problem is rather the following:
> $ touch ab
> $ ln ab xy.
> $ ls
> ab      xy.
> $ rm ab
> $ ls
> xy.
> $ rm xy.
> rm: xy.: No such file or directory
> $ rm xy
> rm: xy: No such file or directory
> $ ls
> xy.
> $ grrr
> 
> 
> : It sounds like this is a "feature" of the Win32 file system, in that
> : it doesn't *quite* preserve the file name correctly.  If so, there's
> : not much we can do about it.  Except, perhaps, to MIME encode the
> : problem file names :-(
> The issue is not one of missing filename preservation either, 
> rather on 
> the contrary.
> 
> : DJ Delorie wrote:
> : > It sounds like this is a "feature" of the Win32 file 
> system, in that
> : > it doesn't *quite* preserve the file name correctly.  If 
> so, there's
> : > not much we can do about it.  Except, perhaps, to MIME encode the
> : > problem file names :-(
> : It's a "feature" of the - in this respect absolutely brain damaged -
> : NT/Win32 subsystem  file naming/handling: 
> : NTFS knows the difference between "xy." and "xy" , but the 
> Win32 layer 
> : "erases" this knowledge !
> : Getting this NTFS capability back under Win32 is not a trivial task,
> : perhaps not doable without writing a kernel subsystem .
> Don't know if that's the situation. I tried every tool I have (Norton 
> commander clones etc.)
> 
> : > Getting this NTFS capability back under Win32 is not a 
> trivial task,
> : > perhaps not doable without writing a kernel subsystem .
> : > P.S.: The Interix Posix subsystem knows the difference on NTFS
> : We've talked about bypassing the win32 file system layer for other
> : things, but decided against it because it lets you create files that
> : other standard win32 programs (like explorer) can't deal with.
> Which one can?
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas Wolff
> 
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