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Reply-To: "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi AT ipass DOT net>
From: "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi AT ipass DOT net>
To: "Glenn Spell" <glenn AT gs DOT fay DOT nc DOT us>, <cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
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Subject: Re: cygwin.bat fails
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:11:52 -0400
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> Since neither Suhaib nor Greg had the time or disposition to make
> proper attributions in their respective messages, please forgive me
> if I erred in trying to cover their misgivings.
> 
> Greg Martin <gregm AT netidea DOT com> wrote:
> 
> > In private email, Suhaib M. Siddiqi <ssiddiqi AT ipass DOT net> wrote:
> >
> > > You can make better use of Cygwin if you upgrade to Win NT.
> > > Win98 and 95 are too flaky and are meant only playing games, not
> > > for serious computings.
> 
> Actually, Win95/98 have no competition, to speak of, in their
> particular market segmet, the desktop OS. It's the best thing.
> 
> WinNT, on the other hand, serves no particular purpose in its
> particular market segment, the server OS. Almost every other
> contender in that segment runs circles around NT. Why would anyone
> with half a brain even consider using NT as a server when there are
> so many more reasons to use FreeBSD, Linux, or even Solaris.
> 

I was referring to NT Workstation and you are jumping on Server.

I guess you liked the blue screen dumps at your monitor.

Speaking of comptetion, Microsoft had always tried effectively kill any competitor.

Speaking of half the brain!!! I guess according to your philosophy SiliconGraphics
must be a half-brain compant???  Their NT worksation are very good.

Speaking of your praises for Win 95/98, perhaps you know that Win95 and Win98
are not really 32 bit systems.  Behind the GUI is a 16 bit stuff, while NT is a
32-bit system.


> The only people, by and large, who use NT are those who get paid to
> do so. And the decision to pay them is made by those who have little
> or no knowledge of what they are buying, in terms of software and
> personnel. They're buying "hype".

This your opinion.

> 
> And, of course, Microsoft prices NT out of the desktop market.  A few
> people, for one reason or another, end up using NT as a desktop OS.

You perhaps needs to do some price checking.  Your software vendor must be
selling you something too expensive.

> Due primarily to its heretage (OS/2), NT does perform most tasks as a
> desktop OS better than Win95/98. But not being positioned to compete
> in that market, it's not a contender.
> 

Do you have an example to prove your statement???  

> Even those shops that claim to be an "NT Shop" probably have more
> Win95/98 seats in the house than WinNT. In fact, there are probably
> still more Win31 seats in corporate America than WinNT.
> 
> So, anyone (including you and Cygnus) who brushs aside the Win95/98
> market does so at their own peril. Cygwin fits like a hand-in-glove
> with Windows 95 and Windows 98.

Is Microsoft also brushing aside Win95/98?  Majority of the software code at
Microsoft  is developed first at NT.  Think about the reasons why!!!!!!!!

> 
> > Personally I prefer FreeBSD for programming but want to use cygwin
> > for some windows projects. Personally I'd like to see ms os's done
> > away with all together but I have a recording studio and the ware I
> > use requires mswindows. What's a sod to do? :-)

Oh that is why you were unable to read messages sent out by OutLook Express,
and sending me 3 pages mails as explainations why you could not. :-)

This message is off topic.  Reply directly to me if you want to answer.

Have fun

Suhaib


> 
> Guess you'll just have to keep using Pegasus for FreeBSD.  ;-)
> 
> > > Greg Martin <gregm AT netidea DOT com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can run sh then bash just fine but there seems to be a
> > > > problem with the bat file that the start menu accesses. I can't
> > > > see a problem and am hopiung someone can for me. The errors I
> > > > get are:
> > > > Too many parameters
> > > > Bad command or file name
> 
> Is the .BAT file formatted in DOS/Windows style or Unix?
> 
> > > > The bat file looks like this:
> > > > @ECHO OFF
> > > > SET MAKE_MODE=UNIX
> > > > SET PATH=d:\CYGNUS\CYGWIN~1\H-I586~1\BIN;%PATH%
> > > > bash
> 
> Add "REM " before "@ECHO OFF" to help see what's happening.
> 
> > > > I'm thrilled to have unix emulation on mswindows.
> 
> Then what will you do if your wish that "ms os's done away with all
> together" comes true?
> 
> > > > Any chance I'll get a core dump instead of the blue screen of
> > > > death? ;-)
> 
> Core dumps are coming with the next release. The BSODs will always be
> with us.
> 
> -glenn
> 
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