From: demosthe AT iag DOT net (Patrick Burrows) Subject: Re: I'm new 9 Mar 1998 05:40:14 -0800 Message-ID: <002601bd4b65$98931cc0$92e0a1cd.cygnus.gnu-win32@master-chen> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: I too am new, and was very confused when, thinking I downloaded a c compiler, I downloaded some sort of unix shell. I downloaded the compiler because I want to learn C (been using VB for too long). I am not very familiar with Unix (though I do not mind learning). And while, yes, I know about the doc files at cygnus, I haven't read them because the preamble says it does not really apply to Win32 yet. So my question is, what is a good book, or online source, where I can learn the *basics* of Bash ( I only want to know enough so I can compile and run a program). Apparently Bash does not support any of the unix commands I know: ls, cd, etc...). BTW--I *did* look at the archives for this list, but, unfortunately, it is not searchable. I apologize for this post, because I realize the list must get one of these everytime someone like me downloads the program, but I could not find a similar post in the archives. Also, is it necessary to use the faux Unix shell? Or can I just use Notepad to write my program, and then compile from the command line (like g++.exe myprog.cpp). As I said, I *am* willing to learn the shell interface, but I really don't see how it should be necessary if I am neither porting from or to Unix. Thank you. >An important point that Mark left out of his description is that this >package is decidedly UNIX like, with much of the tools and conventions of >UNIX. One who starts using this package should be familiar with the UNIX >way of working or be willing to learn (with a good book). > >Good luck and enjoy! > > >At 10:34 PM 3/8/98 +1000, Mark Read wrote: >>Hi Vicki. >> >>In a nut-shell, GNU-WIN32 is a free (yes, free!) C (and C++) compiler that >>runs in a Windows 95/NT (32 bit) environment (your development environment). >> >>You can use it to either: >> >>a) port Unix to Windows 95/NT: take standard Unix C programs and compile >>them under GNU-WIN32, usually without changing a single line or source code, >>and produce a binary (exe) that will run on a Wintel (Windows 95/NT on Intel >>architecture). >> >>b) write C or C++ programs under the Windows 95/NT development environment >>(from scratch or from your existing projects in some cases) and either >>compile for a Windows binary or take to source and compile it under a Unix >>environment. >> >>The FAQ and RELEASE files located on the Cygnus home page (www.cygnus.com) >>(click on the CYG32WIN icon on the left edge) has a lot more information. >> >>Cheers, Mark. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Vicki >>To: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com >>Date: Sunday, 8 March 1998 17:52 >>Subject: I'm new >> >> >>>I'm new to this gnu stuff, what does GNU-WIN32 supposed to do? >>>- >>>For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to >>>"gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help". >>> >> >> >> >>- >>For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to >>"gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help". >> >> >- >For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to >"gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help". - For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".